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Originally Posted by DannyTheSkinhead
The quote above is someone who understands the DREAM Act. It is clearly stated that it's understood by the person talking. Here's the thing though, they feel, since they were born in the country, they should get some rights in the "instate tuition" issue. Since they would give those rights to people born outside the country. Yes, anyone, including a Dreamie, would have to qualify to get instate. BUT, they feel they're giving equal rights to students born outside the country. Basically, they just want to have that same right of coming from somewhere else and be able to pay in state tuition.
Why do I always get a headache when I come to this forum? And who's gonna take up my offer of getting organised? Stop talking, start doing. |
Maybe you were saying that U.S. citizens, if they go study abroad, go to a university somewhere other than the U.S., that they would want reduced tutition there. Just like we came here, lived here and now get in-state in some states, they'd want the same benefit of going to another country and studying there without paying out of country rates? I'm not sure how it works outside of the U.S., but if it's like here, they would probably have to live there for a certain amount of time before being able to get reduced tuition, just like we have lived here for a certain amount of years and now can benefit from in-state from those 10 or so states that do offer it to us.
Maybe I'm way off... I don't know... but how can a citizen say they want the right to pay in-state when they already have that right? I just don't understand.
By the way... how do you propose to get organized? We've had calling campaigns, letter mailings, emailing, faxing, submitted stories to reporters...etc. What do you think we should do and how should we start? I'm asking sincerely.
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Originally Posted by DannyTheSkinhead
The quote above is someone who understands the DREAM Act. It is clearly stated that it's understood by the person talking. Here's the thing though, they feel, since they were born in the country, they should get some rights in the "instate tuition" issue. Since they would give those rights to people born outside the country. Yes, anyone, including a Dreamie, would have to qualify to get instate. BUT, they feel they're giving equal rights to students born outside the country. Basically, they just want to have that same right of coming from somewhere else and be able to pay in state tuition.
Why do I always get a headache when I come to this forum? And who's gonna take up my offer of getting organised? Stop talking, start doing. |
Sorry, but that person has no idea what he/she is talking about. You say it's from someone who understands the DREAM Act, but they obviously don't. That, or you're explaining her argument wrong. Either way, she/he CAN get in-state tuition in their state. If they don't wanna pay out-of-state tuition, then maybe they should go to school in their state. I'm sure there are great universities there.
And all your talk about "getting organized" is starting to become annoying. You have like 30 posts and it seems like you don't visit the forum much (I might be wrong), you don't know what we've been doing/are doing/will continue to do to help the cause. Hrvatica has mentioned a few of the projects that we have participated in. Yes, there's a lot to be done still but stop with your attitude because there are many members in the forum who are doing a lot for DREAM.
And yes, I'm in a bad mood.
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Originally Posted by DannyTheSkinhead
The quote above is someone who understands the DREAM Act. It is clearly stated that it's understood by the person talking. Here's the thing though, they feel, since they were born in the country, they should get some rights in the "instate tuition" issue. Since they would give those rights to people born outside the country. Yes, anyone, including a Dreamie, would have to qualify to get instate. BUT, they feel they're giving equal rights to students born outside the country. Basically, they just want to have that same right of coming from somewhere else and be able to pay in state tuition.
Why do I always get a headache when I come to this forum? And who's gonna take up my offer of getting organised? Stop talking, start doing. |
It's not like we can move to a state and get in-state tuition right away.. NO. Our requirements are the same as theirs plus some.
Your friends are ignorant of facts and refuse to intake new info. Listening to them will confuse you because you don't grasp the concept fully as well. Please do your research also. I think your headache comes from your friends not us. It's like the Blind leading the blind.
Also, tell them if they want equal rights.. throw away their driver's license and find other ways of transportation. Throw away their SSN and try to find a job without it. Tell them to stop filing financial aid papers and forget about scholarships.
They have it made and they're complaining. How ridiculous to demand equality, I wish they could have it, they wouldn't last a month.
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