Gay people getting married is bad? of course not! - Page 7

I was thinking about this whole thing and trying to understand why so many religious people hate gays. I decided to ask my mom (who is very religious and goes to church functions like 3x a week) about how she felt.

She brought up something that I hadn't really thought of.

She said that she doesn't hate gay people and does believe that they are born that way and shouldn't be treated as second class citizens. But she said that she didn't think they should be allowed to get married because of the impact that it would have on the children of those who decide to have them.
I had never really given it much thought, and even though I agree that the next generation of children will grow up thinking being gay is normal or acceptable. But is that really a bad thing? My mom argued that children will grow up believing that being gay is ok and that they'll be more influenced to be gay or to explore homosexuality. It is a little maybe out there to me because I am not gay and I just can't understand not being attracted to the opposite sex.
I just don't see why it would be wrong for children to be more open minded and accepting. Maybe then all the prejudice would end?

And I just don't think that children will end up being gay just because their parents are. Because then, why do straight parents have gay children?

Idk.. I just wish that people were more open minded and learned to be more accepting of others.

You have a very good point there, however all of us live in a society where our actions will be perceived by others as "good" or "bad". I'm not saying that judging other people's actions is ok, but we have to admit that these things will never change unless you go live by yourself in a deserted island.

In this particular case some people see gay marriage as "bad" thing, and even when it doesn't have to do anything with themselves, it does have to do a lot with their community, therefore, affecting them.

Different people have different reasons to be in favor or against this controversial issue. Categorizing everyone who is in favor of gay marriage as a "liberal commie" is as ignorant as categorizing everyone who is against it as a "religious nut".

You might say where am I going with this? Well, not even I know. All I know is that we all have to learn to respect each other. Even if we are in different sides of this issue we should not insult each other.

I'm talking specially about the representation stuff in all of our profiles. Just look at elmichoacano's and Pygmalion's profile...full of people hating him because he thinks different. You may or may not agree with him, but it doesn't mean you can't act that way. Come on people.

Prejudice will never end, just as there will never such a thing as "world peace". It is human nature to judge others as well as fighting.

As 2pac once said, "somethings will never change" (look at me...all gansta and shit )

this is not about "actions" juan. it's about others rights and freedoms. Who are we to tell US CITIZENS that they shouldn't be allowed to marry if they so please in THEIR own country. I mean let's face it, whether we like it or not, this isn't our country because we weren't born here. We want them to accept us even though our parents disregarded THEIR laws to bring us here (for noble purposes we will forever be grateful for). Please save me the "speech" as I have heard it far too many times. I don't dislike El or Pyg (or anyone else on this forum for that matter). What I disagree with and find VERY hypocritical is people who are here illegaly and undocumented, asking to be accepted and legalized, feeling that it is their "duty" as a christian, muslim or jew to tell citizens of this country that they shouldn't have the right to be married. If we are legalized today, we will be above gays and I am against that.



ps: CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY I CAN'T SEE THIS THREAD PAST PAGE 7??

Yeah, I know. But one can dream, right?

haha quoting 2pac..

*And I think the site is fucking up because there are a bunch of threads that say there's a lot more posts than there really are.

What makes your intolerance so different from pygmalion's? You hate the bible and christians and he doesn't like gays. You guys are in the same boat.

How many times do we have to go through this? Go away. No one thinks you're a DREAMer. Ever check out your profile? No one believes that you're under 50 years old, let alone a DREAMer. Excuse my language but fuck off.

Let them get married.

If a religious institution doesn't want to marry them, then they don't have to. But religion should keep its hands out of civil affairs; if a gay couple wants to get married in city hall, then what right does a church have to stop them?

My view: If you don't believe in gay marriage, then don't get one, don't go to any, don't support them. But don't you dare tell two consenting, loving people that they can't do what most other consenting, loving people do because of their biology.

Done.

Well, we are part of their society. And what happens in our society involves us just as much as anyone else.

example: lets say your neighbor doesn't mow his lawn for a long time. I mean a really long time and the grass is taller than a rabbit, will it bug you if you own a house in the same block?

It would to some people, and it wouldn't to some others, but at the end, it will affect everyone because everyone is living in the same community even when the mess is only in the house of that messy neighbor.

Therefore, everyone is entitled to their own opinion without having to be labeled as "hypocrites".

I agree with you. I don’t see how children being more accepting of their gay peers is a bad thing.

And having gay parents DOES NOT mean that you will grow up to be gay. Otherwise, straight parents would only have straight kids, and as we all know, that’s not the case.

The only problem I see when it comes to gay parenting is the stigma that comes with it. These children will undoubtedly face discrimination and hostility at some point in their lives just because their parents are gay. But the culprit here is not gay parents per se but our heteronormative society that continues to accept blatant discrimination. This is one of the many reasons equal rights are so important. If the government treated everyone with the same amount of respect, most people would follow suit and the lives of these children - as well as gay children themselves - would be that much easier.

Furthermore, studies have shown that children with gay parents are more likely to be successful. But to be fair, this is probably due to the fact that gay parents tend to be college-educated, upper-middle class, and emotionally stable - whereas all you really need to be a straight parent is good lube. If you were to compare gay parents to straight, financially stable parents only, I’m sure the results would be pretty much the same.