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#11
06-14-2009, 12:58 PM
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one can't simply say "if you regret coming, why don't you go back." nor should we treat the US as land of milk and honey, and to see our presence here as some sort of special gift, which implies something like ...we wouldn't be successful if we didnt come here. I (family) had a gated house, 2 cars, 2 dogs, top notch prep school, sat tv. Its not to sound boastful, but life would've been fine either way. Everyone has their own unique story and emotions about this.
I regret how my parents were woefully ignorant of immigration law and time after time missed opportunities to set things right for me and my siblings. The sad irony is that my mom's now a citizen and my dad would get a green card in 3 months if he wanted, but not only does he not want it (the man hasn't lived in this country for over a decade) neither of them really deserve it. I know...harsh, but mom merely uses her pp to travel and is ready to go back. Having papers didn't improve her life. She's had the same job for 15 years; she could have easily done without it.

My regrets are soaked in complex emotions. On one hand I hate how I'm treated as less human, and the trappings that we all experience. On the other, I can easily go back, but this is my home and I wouldn't know what to do if I went back. Most of my family is here. My gf is from here. The friends I have are all here, even the ones I had before coming to the US. My emotions and future are tied to this country. It's always easy to say "go back" but back to what? I understand where some of you are coming from, but do also understand that we all have different perspectives on this stuff, and it's perfectly reasonable for someone to have regrets, even if offends your sensibilities about felial obligations.
Just because those who cared for us made these decisions for us with the best of intentions, doesn't mean we can't have any regrets with it.
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06-14-2009, 01:29 PM
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some of the worst decisions in all of mankind's history have been made with the best of intentions. so i dont buy all these "oh your parents brought you here so you can have a better life" excuse for breaking the law and subsequently forcing me to break the law.

i cant regret something that i have not done knowingly and willingly, but i am willing to criticize my parents for their woeful ignorance and their "let chips fall where they may" attitude that have so far resulted in my current predicament.

with that said, you cant live your life looking back on what ifs. i have a life to live in the present and my life that i will look forward to in the future. im not gonna waste time pouting and beating myself and blaming everyone else. im going to school, piling up on my skills, do anything and everything in my power so that i will be ready when opportunity presents itself.
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06-14-2009, 01:51 PM
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I definitely don't regret coming to the U.S., although my experience has been easier than a lot of people and that might have something to do with my stance. But whether the Dream Act passes or not, many of us are able to go to community college or state schools or what have you, and a U.S. education is very valuable abroad.
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06-14-2009, 02:58 PM
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I agree with Bruinmann. Just because our parents wanted to do a good thing for us, it doesn't mean you can't blame them for failing. I am from Poland, and we had a good life there. We had a big house and life was great. Now that we are in the EU, there is even more opportunities. And yet my parents decided to be stupid enough to move here, without even trying the legal way, just because our country was in a recession? I am sorry, but there is no excuse for what they did. And on top of that they brought me here without telling me we are staying, they said we are coming on a vacation, so I did not even properly get to say good bye to my friends and family. And even to this day they think they made the right choice. Well, I do not and I am furious.

I try not to let it bother me, but I just cannot live this way anymore. If nothing happens this year, I am out of here. I want to became a pilot, and I love flying, and I cant do either of that here with my status. I may be young, 19, but this is already too much for me, feeling like an outcast, like a second class citizen, hell like a slave really. I imagined what my life would be if we never came here, and it would be just fine, maybe even better. I may sound like I am really ungrateful for what my parents did, but guess what? I am mad at them, and i have every right to be.
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06-14-2009, 06:45 PM
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It was a good experience living here even if i have to go back to my country.
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I am from Poland, and we had a good life there. We had a big house and life was great. Now that we are in the EU, there is even more opportunities. And yet my parents decided to be stupid enough to move here, without even trying the legal way, just because our country was in a recession?
I was in a similar situation. We were relatively well-off in my home country, in spite of the recession. To think of it, we're worse off here than we were there. But my parents wanted us (me and my sister) to get a good education, and they thought the US would be the best place for that. (By the way I happen to think that the US public school system can be very lazy) Either way, your situation is very unfortunate mac900. I'm not mad at my parents at all, but I think they had the power to go about this (our immigration) in a better way, and they chose not to. They're very hopeful that something will pass soon to fix the immigration situation, but it's difficult to stay positive.
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06-14-2009, 07:49 PM
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I don't even though sometimes that it seems that the rest of my family in Mexico is doing great. I see the news and see in reality we have a better education and health. I may not be in the best of position but I learned a lot, and earned too. I learned what it is to work hard for your money. I learned what my parents go through. Its not nice how people treat us immigrants but there are also people who are our friends and support us, and they understand we are human too and it hurts to be like every one else and yet not the equal. Don't blame any one it just gives you a reason to fight harder.
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#18
06-14-2009, 09:11 PM
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I am sorry, but there is no excuse for what they did. And on top of that they brought me here without telling me we are staying, they said we are coming on a vacation, so I did not even properly get to say good bye to my friends and family. And even to this day they think they made the right choice. Well, I do not and I am furious.

I try not to let it bother me, but I just cannot live this way anymore. If nothing happens this year, I am out of here. I want to became a pilot, and I love flying, and I cant do either of that here with my status. I may be young, 19, but this is already too much for me, feeling like an outcast, like a second class citizen, hell like a slave really. I imagined what my life would be if we never came here, and it would be just fine, maybe even better. I may sound like I am really ungrateful for what my parents did, but guess what? I am mad at them, and i have every right to be.
I can relate to you in a way. Well for one, I am from Poland as well. And two, I felt the same way you do, during my senior year in high school. I blamed my mom constantly for getting me into this situation that now created such barriers and lost opportunities. I remember being so angry at her for not thinking about how this illegal status would affect my life. But guess what, all that did was just create an unpleasant situation at home and brought about even more frustration. Blaming her did not make me feel any better and it sure as hell didn't make her feel good either. Nothing positive come out of having these arguments. Giving our parents the guilt trip is not going to change anything besides make them or us feel even worse. I am positive that it's not easy for my parents to watch me be stuck in place, not able to reach my full potential, as a result of their actions. Looking back on it now, I'm sure they wish they had done things differently or at least tried to.

Even though it might have not been a very wise and well-thought-out decision, it was also probably the best one they had at the time. And besides, I don't think that they ever expected to be illegal for so long. I mean just look at us, we thought dream act was going to pass years ago, or least we hoped so. And yet, it still hasn't.

Point is, I understand where you are coming from completely, because I've been there and your post sounded like something I would have said a year or so ago. But I realized that we can't dwell on the past and blame our parents endlessly. It simply gets us nowhere. I say cut them some slack because sometimes we just have to play with the cards we got, even though they were dealt for us without our consent or approval.
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06-16-2009, 02:17 AM
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one can't simply say "if you regret coming, why don't you go back." nor should we treat the US as land of milk and honey, and to see our presence here as some sort of special gift, which implies something like ...we wouldn't be successful if we didnt come here. I (family) had a gated house, 2 cars, 2 dogs, top notch prep school, sat tv. Its not to sound boastful, but life would've been fine either way. Everyone has their own unique story and emotions about this.
I regret how my parents were woefully ignorant of immigration law and time after time missed opportunities to set things right for me and my siblings. The sad irony is that my mom's now a citizen and my dad would get a green card in 3 months if he wanted, but not only does he not want it (the man hasn't lived in this country for over a decade) neither of them really deserve it. I know...harsh, but mom merely uses her pp to travel and is ready to go back. Having papers didn't improve her life. She's had the same job for 15 years; she could have easily done without it.

My regrets are soaked in complex emotions. On one hand I hate how I'm treated as less human, and the trappings that we all experience. On the other, I can easily go back, but this is my home and I wouldn't know what to do if I went back. Most of my family is here. My gf is from here. The friends I have are all here, even the ones I had before coming to the US. My emotions and future are tied to this country. It's always easy to say "go back" but back to what? I understand where some of you are coming from, but do also understand that we all have different perspectives on this stuff, and it's perfectly reasonable for someone to have regrets, even if offends your sensibilities about felial obligations.
Just because those who cared for us made these decisions for us with the best of intentions, doesn't mean we can't have any regrets with it.
Ok well, to me, if you regret something, it means you wish something didn't happen or you are disappointed or unsatisfied with something.
If you aren't happy about something, then why would you continue to be in that situation. I mean, it's not like you can't do anything about this. If you trully feel unhappy about coming here and wish you didn't come here, then why not go back? I'm not saying it's easy, but you sound like you would rather have stayed in your country.

I can honestly say that I don't regret coming here. Why? Because I am very happy that I'm here. I know I have a good life minus my immigration situation and I'm thankful that I was able to come here. I don't regret coming here, and I think if I did, then I would go back.

It's like someone asking me if I regret getting married? If I say no, it means I'm happy and I don't feel like it was a mistake. If I say yes, then wouldn't you ask, "why don't you get a divorce?"
It's the same thing. If you regret coming here, I only wonder why you wouldn't go back.

You have a life here now, that's true. But if you are unhappy with the fact that you came here, well then change it. If you hadn't come here, then you wouldn't have the life that you have now, you wouldn't have your gf and all your friends.

I don't know.. it just doesn't make sense to me..
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#20
06-16-2009, 08:06 AM
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You know that word "regret"..has been a great burden in my family for as long as I can remember..I discussed this with both my parents ..and honestly they knew little of how life would be..In my home country when one hears "USA", they hear hollywood, beautiful beaches, New York, Work, a better future etc..I'm sure they felt deep regret when they finally realized it wasnt so..

In my home country we had a small business and it did well, we had a home which we constructed from the ground up, my father wasnt far from buying a new car until my aunt mentioned to him life in the USA....my mothers tears obviously explains her feelings over the consequence of coming here, but she stays strong..my father has a overwhelming amount of pride and refuses to show any regret even though i can see it in his eyes..

You kno its understandable when a american who have their rights to make us look as a disturbance or somebody in their way or even feel threatened or unsafe with the knowledge that their own country has people that they dont kno nothing about but in the end one can stand strong and deal with it..but when u have family that make u feel inferior than u are, that's when it really hurts...my brother had a chance of going to college with no problem and was only in need of a cosigner for a loan but not one of my aunt or uncles would offer to put their name..it wasnt like we are irresponsible people trying to pull a fast one..they just didnt trust us..and later on they would have the balls to ask "how were we doing? are u going to school? are u working?" and now this has passed on to me..so much for family unity..but hey, what isnt killing us is making us stronger, right?

I'm sure many of our parents/guardians have this weight on their conscience..Many of us here are young..best we can do is work for tomorrow, keep those close to us, be humble, love, have faith and hope, be you..no one can take that away from us..
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