White House Says Immigration Reform Unlikely in ’09 - Page 5

i just found out about this program and honestly i think its great!!!!!!!
yeah maybe it never comes true but hey most of us have been here for many years waiting for hope and now that finally there is some we're here complaning and being negative.
im glad and i wont loose hope and hopefully yall wont etheir

Is there a list of who is even going to show up on the 25th?
That is two days before they take a week long vacation for the July 4th holiday, I would really like to find out how many are even working this week! Anybody know where I can look up that info??

I have been following this for years now. My eyes are getting tired from reading these articles on the status/mood/progress/etc of these Immigration Bills. One thing I know for sure, the CIR is killing it for us. CIR and Dream Act should be kept far far apart. CIR is just trouble for us Dreamies - unfortunately though. It's common sense..we all know it...so don't deny it.

Well I have to tell you guys, it is unlikely that the dream act or anything like it will pass ever.

For one thing, almost every American opposes amnesty of any kind. Unemployment is headed above 10% and nobody can advocate for any kind of amnesty with a straight face. There are far too many loopholes in such a bill that makes it an amnesty bill. It is far from a dream for most legal American citizens, it is more like a nightmare.

And yes it does hurt other people. State schools are crowded. How can Americans justify putting illegal students in those schools, and taking the spot of legal kids? You guys need to think of the effects this has on people besides yourselves. Doing that would be morally wrong.

There is also the fact that it completely undermines the hopes and dreams of legal immigrants and their kids. If anyone should get citizenship after 5 years, shouldn't they rather than you?

if the person said that is amnesty, but do they have any suggest on immigration issue? immigration issue is really complex, and we don't finish this year. therefore, nobody know what time it will bring up again.......in fact, 2009 is the best year for us to pass any immigration bill. we will see 6/25....but i really don't have high hope on CIR/Dream Act.

Obviously you're only here to instigate us but I'm gonna flatter you're ignorance by responding to your post.

First of all, this generalization that "almost" every American is against any kind of amnesty is as well based as saying almost every American loves peanut butter.

Unemployment has no direct relation too immigration. If anything, granting even just a work permit would allow all those immigrants to pay taxes and alleviate the burden on the current American citizens who payed for all those bailouts, even though a good portion pay taxes regardless. And even putting taxes aside, the hefty fine the INS is planning to charge people if any kind of CIR passes would just bring them more money that it costs to legalize anyone.

With the Dream act which would make it a requirement to attend school or join the military, it would be a windfall with all those tuitions that will be coming to them and for the military it's even better with their recruitment quotas on the floor.

So before you start throwing around the words "morally wrong" without even using a solid thought behind it, I'd get informed if I were you.

If by "legal immigrants" you mean permanent residents, then there is nothing that bars them from applying for citizenship after 5 years, DREAM/CIR or not.

All too often I see the argument for the Dream Act leave the concerns of legal immigrants outside of the equation, as though they don't matter as much. Legal immigrants have to defer gratification and wait outside the country before being allowed to reside in the USA legally and go to school here.

But then there are those who have been here illegally as children, and therefore they think that they should be able to stay here, go to college here, or serve in our military here... without going through that rigorous process that legals had to go through? It's like you want to be put ahead of them in line. They can't do any of the stuff in USA that you want to do.. and they're *legal.* That's the big issue with this act.

Why do you deserve to live here now while others wait? Because you're "already here?" If anything, shouldn't that be counted against you instead of for you?

Yeah, because being here as an illegal immigrant is such a walk in the park...

I see that the new DAP policy of letting the opposition post is in full effect now.

Shame.