Made In USA - Page 2

Good news, today I bought Hanes socks made in the US. Very surprising since everything I bought from them in the past had always been made in Central America.

I found this thread a bit hatred toward the "made in china". I have brought many products made in china and most of them last just like those made in Germany and USA.

I don't see any reason why we need to be so picky about this. There are many reasons to why we have slow economy. It's true that jobs are more out of the Americans. This is why we need education, we need to advance ourselves, rather than just working in the industry. I also value the ideas of computerize and robotize everything.

This thread is a bit too conservative. I am more into the business and glottalization, rather than conservative national-worker-right-economic-superiority-ism.

This is not a thread hatred toward the "made in China" stuff...although I understand why you may look at it like that. I also agree the stuff made in China has some very high quality standards. This thread is about promoting stuff made in the US over any other country to help our economy.

I'm not saying buy all your stuff from the US. It is virtually impossible. Perhaps I'm only asking people to put a little effort; and if you can, choose a Made In USA over Made In Somewhere else product.

As I've stated it before, I am not an economist. However, I know there's lots of reasons as to why the economy has slowed down. This is more about helping the economy our own way as much as possible.

Just look at it this way. If you buy something with a Made in USA mark on it, your money is paying for the work of:

1. The guy who made the item
2. The guy who packed the item to be shipped somewhere else.
3. The guy who loaded the truck with those items.
4. The guy who drove the truck to either an airport, harbor, or to the city
5. The guy who unloaded the truck.
6. The guy who stalked the merchandise in a storage.
7. The guy who loaded a smaller truck with the items to be shipped into a city
8. The guy who drove that smaller truck
9. The guy who unloaded that smaller truck.
10. The workers at the store who stalked the items in the store
11. The guys who put the items on display at the store.
12. Don't forget the guy who sweeps the floor on the stores. They are keeping the facilities clean too.
13. And the cashier who took your money at the end.

I'm sure most of us DREAMERS have held a job where we are part of this process, so this directly affect us

There are so many more people involved in this process, but I only have so much time.

Also, don't forget that every time you buy something made in the US you're supporting a factory that at least has a government over its head that's making sure they follow some environmental laws, as well as making sure they are paying their workers at least a minimum wage.

Do you think Walmart moved its factories to China because they are trying to make the regular Chinese worker richer? The same goes for Nike and all of the companies who moved. Hell no! They did it because in the US they had to give their workers rights, follow a couple of rules to keep them from destroying the environment and shit like that. Just see it this way:

When you buy stuff made in the US, you're supporting the American way of life.

I honestly don't have anything against the stuff made in China, and I will buy it, but only if I have no other options and the Chinese option is the cheapest one. As to this day, I haven't bought a new iron because I'm not just going to buy an iron made in China (and because I've been too lazy to go to target and get the $60 German iron). I'm not going to pay Nike $30 for a running shirt when most likely they paid their workers 10 cents an hour, gave no benefits, and they are forced to work 7 days a week (or something crazy like that)

Just go and check the documentary "Walmart The True Cost Of Low Prices" I don't recall if that's the exact title, but I'm sure it is along those lines.

Or click here:
http://www.time.com/time/photoessays...hina_migrants/

After watching it, you just can't really buy stuff made in China without feeling some guilt.

I may never have a paper saying I'm an American, but when I make the effort and pay a few dollars more for American products, I feel as American as it gets.

ohh my... they pay to stalk the merchandise, reminds me of the guy that stares at the orange juice aisle because the juice says concentrate (sorry had to, could not hold back from pointing this out lol, the correct word is stacked btw, stalked is like talking of a stalker or something :-p)

either way, you could buy the iron from the intraw3bs... just a thought. Generally if it is technology and it costs more then 30 bucks, I look online, it also means that you could probably get a good american brand that will last longer for the price you pay for a made in china product over at the local Target.

In any case you have a point there, and in many cases it surprises me that a made in china product could be so much cheaper, considering that their products goes through more hands the american made products. Think about it, the products have to be shipped through half a world. That is possible because they pay their workers less, it is possible because they are trying to find short cuts to making a products, which is why there has been problems with lead in products, or when they add some sort of toxic chemical to milk in order to fake high protein levels at a lower cost to them, its just cheaper to do business that way, they are able to sell things cheaper and sell it to people that will pay little money for junk just because it is worth little.

Furthermore, we talk about the carbon footprint of fruits and vegetables when we consider how much carbon dioxide is emitted due to their transportation across the country, and we fail to realize the carbon foot print of the cheap toaster that is likely to break soon after it is purchased (they are cheap, who cares) and travels 10-13 thousand miles!!!

In all honesty, I left country loyalism behind when I came to the US. Sure it sounds nice and logical, but at the end of the day, it is not absolutely true. All those private companies that went public, and expanded in a exponential manner more than likely did so by going global, and undercutting manufacturing costs in another country.

While the blue collar worker may have lost his/her job, that expansion allowed more engineers, designers, marketers, lawyers, programmer, web developers, etc, etc.. to get a job in a field that is higher paying and requires more education. Brand/country patriotism sounds well on paper but at the end is not as clear cut. I mean, the USA hasn't gone to be the strongest economy in the world by staying a manufacturing super power. And china sure as hell is moving into another direction (more educated professionals every year).

The back bone of American jobs is small business, and this is where and when American products are made, but the real money is when said company becomes a "conglomerate" giant that contributes to the economy in a significant way.

I'll buy American when the price is right because I'm 90 % of the time guaranteed a quality item. For example, craftsman tools are awesome, well priced, and you can go to sears and exchange it no questions asked 50 years from now when you break it. As far as china, I've had the bad experience w/many items (broken more tools than I can remember), but that's been improving a LOT over the last 10 years (case in point, I still have a few Chinese tools left in my tool box). The only quality issues I still see is from copy cat companies that have no quality control or an American boss to yell at them.

Moral of the story, I see a bigger picture where the American college graduate can get their dream job at a big company because an American citizen had the money to burn on the Chinese plasma TV which fed a Chinese kid and allowed him and his country to move from rural to Global giant in 10 years flat. Being an Illegal immigrant has taught me that no matter where or who is poor, a human life is a human life and I don't care if my money is bringing happiness to an American kid getting a bigger gift for Christmas or a Chinese kid a new pair of shoes.

mmm...I'm starting to think China is not how we think it is. From the picture essay in the link, it seems some Chinese are getting rich while the vast majority are as poor as ever.

You guys can do with your money what you want, but as for me I'm going to buy as many "made in the usa" products as possible.

America, love it or leave it!!!!

lol. sometimes when I'm writing and watching tv at the same time, stuff like that passes through me.

stacked, not stalked...got it.

HAha, you're right, it's like the portrayal of Mexico in the news, but in reverse. I'm going by a simple fact that automotive sales have boomed to stupid levels w/in 10 years. it's the biggest car market in the world, and went from citizens driving bicycles to a shitload driving cars. It's a big contrast showing some real progress.