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Rationale behind In-state tuition opposition??

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01-28-2010, 03:24 PM
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I've been trying to think (read: not research) of legitimate reasons behind the opposition students in our situation face regarding in-state college tuition.

Really, to break it down I feel it comes down to whether the university is making a profit or losing money due to in-state students (the cost to government and citizens being a part of such gain/loss). If in fact a university is at a crossroads of not being able to keep its doors open without state assistance from being overly populated by in-state students, I've yet to read much about it. The only such case I've heard/read is that of UT Austin, but that was more about over population and not a shortage of funds.

Now some of you may be thinking, "how can the university lose money if they are still getting in-state tuition?" Well, it's not as simple as it sounds, and the cost/rate of expansion of new programs and facilities may be slower and overly taxing on the institution's revenue. Not to mention housing, bills, and faculty salaries.

I assume however that the universities would have good enough employees to safeguard and balance their capital like any corporate body; and it's this body which is to blame if the money coming in is not administered, or invested in accordance with increasing expenditures or growth.

The other point that's always bugged me is the topic of out of state tuition (why do it unless in-state really is making the university take a hit); but I'm guessing it's due to the fact that out of state students (or parents) have not contributed to property taxes, and are more likely to leave the state once they're done with their studies (depriving the state of potential income and property taxes).

The only things I've heard from the opposition is "my child can't afford it," "can't get in (from overpopulation)," or " it's a citizen but can't get in-state tuition like the undocumented;" yet I feel all of these are moot points.

Am I missing any logical reasons that are not based on bigotry, xenophobia, or ignorance?
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Pure intended ignorance from those who oppose it. They are selectively choosing their argument by omitting the qualifying criteria for in-state tuition of undocumented immigrants which includes: having lived in the state for at least three years and having had graduated from a HS in that state. They claim the system is being unfair to citizens but fail to point out that any citizen who has lived in the state for at least one year qualifies for in-state tuition. Granted he cannot attend college for that year but this is obviously a much better alternative than moving to that state three years prior to graduating from HS and then graduate from that HS. By the time your citizen child is 18 he/she is an adult, if they really want to attend college at any state all they have to do is move there and work for a year...these people need to quit 'fighting' this dumb battle for their 'kids' ...its just one year they're losing out on with a very attractive cost benefit.


UT is just overpopulated cos its just that bad ass of a school and everyone wants to be a Longhorn. Furthermore the Texas Top 10% law, which recently has been changed because of this, is another the reason UT has so many students...when you promise guaranteed acceptance to any student who graduates in the TOP 10% of their class from a state' HS and you're so bad ass of a school you're bound to have more qualified students apply who you could not by law reject.
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