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Obama's State of the Union: Immigration? Gays in the military? - Page 4

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Those are all ideas that already had some amount of political supporters and public support. REAL leadership is when you go against your enemies and even your own friends to fight for something you believe in. She hasn't done that so far. Let's not forget she has been Speaker for quite a while now.
He is right. What kind of leader lets others make the decision of what's important and what's not. As of today I respect more Bush and Obama or any other democrat in Congress. When Bush wanted to go to war, he went to war; even if it was a pointless stupid war. That's a man with balls. A man I can respect.
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He is right. What kind of leader lets others make the decision of what's important and what's not. As of today I respect more Bush and Obama or any other democrat in Congress. When Bush wanted to go to war, he went to war; even if it was a pointless stupid war. That's a man with balls. A man I can respect.
It's real fun when your not doing any of the dying, but when your not doing any of the dying your a piece of shit... Bush is one of the worst presidents, he sent thousands of soldiers to die for an unjust war, that is not a man with balls that's a man with shit in his head.
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It's real fun when your not doing any of the dying, but when your not doing any of the dying your a piece of shit... Bush is one of the worst presidents, he sent thousands of soldiers to die for an unjust war, that is not a man with balls that's a man with shit in his head.
I didn't say he was a good president or that it was a just cause. I said Bush is a man with balls because he held his ground against everyone.

I don't share his point of view on some issues, like war, however, I respect a man who knows what he wants and doesn't cave in; even it is to common sense.

Its like Obama, what respect can I have for a guy that seems to be nothing in office...not even holding up his ground.

Bush is by far one of the worse leaders in history. But he was a leader.

As of today, 1/4 into Obama's term...he seems to be more of a follower than a leader. And that's a man I can't respect.
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hey guys. i'm a new member to this site but have been a frequent visitor since june 2009. i disagree with the comment above; republicans will and HAVE supported CIR in the past. here is a list of the senators that moved to pass S.2611 in 2006

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---62
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
Dayton (D-MN)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---36
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Nelson (D-NE)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Not Voting - 2
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
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