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Immigration Blueprint pdf - Page 2

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People who wanna oppose this bill please shut up!
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So is CIR up now? or are they doing climate right now? I thought CIR was right after health care...
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So is CIR up now? or are they doing climate right now? I thought CIR was right after health care...
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It says that DREAMies will be in a "stand-alone registration program," so I assume our legalization requirements would follow from DREAM Act in addition to those set by this bill?

What I had really wanted to see is what they were going to do in terms of the date from which you would have to prove you've lived continuously in the U.S. But, I guess that will come later.

I've got no problems with the bill. As long as I can work, drive, and actually live without worrying about deportation, that's fine by me.
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I was just going to ask the same thing. Unless he was being sarcastic about the time it would take to "secure the border"...haha bc if he was, i totally missed it.

Anyway, considering that DA is included in the blueprint (and if it does pass), wouldn't that mean that beneficiaries of DA would have a 2year jump start on applying for LPR (bc its only 6years temporary residency for DA)? Either way, letting me work legitimately and travel would be AWESOME!
How long is that going to take really? It seems like an open ended thing to me. They have been talking about securing the borders since the 2006 debate.
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(1) increased number of Border Patrol officers; (2) increased number of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents to combat smuggling operations; 3) increased number of ICE worksite enforcement inspectors and increased inspection resources; 4) increased number of ICE document fraud detection officers and improved detection capability; 5) increased number of personnel to conduct inspections for drugs, contraband, and illegal immigrants at America’s ports of entry; 6) improved technology, infrastructure, and resources to assist the Border Patrol and ICE in their missions; 7) increased resources for prosecution of drug smugglers, human traffickers, and unauthorized border crossers; and increased immigration court resources to expedite the removal of unlawfully present individuals.
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It says that DREAMies will be in a "stand-alone registration program," so I assume our legalization requirements would follow from DREAM Act in addition to those set by this bill?

What I had really wanted to see is what they were going to do in terms of the date from which you would have to prove you've lived continuously in the U.S. But, I guess that will come later.

I've got no problems with the bill. As long as I can work, drive, and actually live without worrying about deportation, that's fine by me.
Its mind boggling why they don't just propose this?!

I don't care about citizenship, and lots of immigrants won't!

It would appease "closet-racists" aka alipacers too!

WIN-WIN
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How long is that going to take really? It seems like an open ended thing to me. They have been talking about securing the borders since the 2006 debate.
It looks like it will take 8 years to adjust but in the meantime you would have "LPI" status which allows for work & travel if you register with the authorities.

Aila has also given their own interpretation of the bill dubbed "REPAIR".It doesn't seem to be too bad actually.
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V. Mandatory Registration, Acceptance of Responsibility, and Administration of Punishment For Unauthorized Aliens Presently in the United States

The proposal creates a two‐phase implementation plan. Phase I requires all undocumented persons to come forward and register their presence through a rigorous process that includes identity, criminal background and security screening, fingerprinting, and the payment of all applicable fees. Upon completing registration, they will be considered for eligibility for a new interim status: “Lawful Prospective Immigrant” (LPI). In addition to the above requirements, undocumented persons must remain in the country continuously from the date of enactment to be eligible for LPI status. LPI status gives them eligibility for the new biometric Social Security card and authorization to work and travel outside the United States. Phase I is designed to screen out criminals and public safety threats and facilitate maximum participation and integration of those who are undocumented. Spouses and minor children living abroad will be eligible for legalization once their relative receives LPI status. Those found ineligible in Phase I will be placed in removal proceedings. Those who fail to register will remain undocumented and be subject to arrest and deportation. The proposal also includes provisions to protect confidentiality, provide judicial review, and allow consideration of case‐specific equities in the processing of applicants.

The following persons are not eligible for Phase I registration: 1) those convicted of three or more misdemeanors or any felony punishable with a prison term of more than one year; 2) those who engaged in persecution of others; 3) those “inadmissible” pursuant to INA 212(a) for national security and criminal grounds; 4) those in the country in an “authorized immigrant or nonimmigrant status”; and 5) those who entered illegally after the bill’s introduction date.

Phase II begins eight years after enactment when current visa backlogs are cleared at which time LPIs will be permitted to petition for adjustment to Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) status. Requirements for eligibility include demonstrating basic citizenship skills, English language skills, and continuous residence in the United States; submitting to additional background and security checks; payment of all taxes, fees and civil penalties; and registration for Selective Service. The proposal allows for some administration and judicial review of denials.

The proposal includes the legalization components in the DREAM Act and AgJobs.
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It says that DREAMies will be in a "stand-alone registration program," so I assume our legalization requirements would follow from DREAM Act in addition to those set by this bill?

What I had really wanted to see is what they were going to do in terms of the date from which you would have to prove you've lived continuously in the U.S. But, I guess that will come later.

I've got no problems with the bill. As long as I can work, drive, and actually live without worrying about deportation, that's fine by me.
Yes, one would assume beneficiaries of the Dream portion of the bill would receive at least a little faster path, otherwise it would be kind of pointless to include it in the bill--especially if there is no federal mandate for undocumented students to get in-state tuition. And I suspect it might be hard to get a provision like that through the Republican "no" machine right now.

Also, I agree with freshh and others that waiting 8 years without the current worries of deportation, lack of papers, etc., is eminently preferable to the way things are now, or to a ten-year ban if you are deported. The key thing is that there would have to be some provision that it is not simply enforcement without some kind of real tie or promise that adjustment will eventually happen. It seems like that will be in the bill.

All in all, it is a very sensible proposal. I just hope there is enough of the enforcement in the top seventeen pages of the bill to placate some Republicans to do the right thing for once.

By the way, I think the oil spill in the Gulf is bad for us because it will give proponents of the climate bill a "crisis" to point to like we have had with Arizona recently.
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The proposal also provides the Secretary of Homeland Security with the authority to deploy National Guard personnel at our borders when needed.
There is so much going on with securing the border but this right here is what Republicans near the border wanted. Enjoy it.

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Because the federal government will have fulfilled its obligation to secure America’s borders, states and municipalities will be prohibited from enacting their own rules and penalties relating to immigration, which could undermine federal policies.
It's a good thing they threw this in there to prohibit laws like sb1070 from being implemented by individual states.


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No personal information will be stored on the electronic chip contained within the social security card other than the individual’s name, date of birth, social security number, and unique biometric identifier.
As I am reading this right now you can tell they put a lot of thought into it. This should silence the people who fear for their privacy.
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I know the white house should be on our list of contact, but I think we should prioritize on senators at the moment. This means we should strive to gather 60 votes, enough for cloture ( just in case). This would allow for an atmosphere that the white house wont (and can't) ignore. So contact key senators that would be brave enough to stand for what is heavily needed.

Remember guys the biggest enemy here is not the opposition to amnesty or reform for that matter, but the biggest enemy is APATHY.

I hope to start a project called "60 votes for cloture" or something like that, the response to the Arizona bill has restored my hope for humanity. So lets get to work and make 2010 different from 2006 by using the minds that have supported this dream so far.

Here is the facebook group that has restored my hope in humanity,
"http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=113236852041063"

This is the type of atmosphere that move past generation to make great things happen, don't let it slip away.
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