Study questions how many would qualify for immigration 'Dream' act - Page 2

OrlandoDREAM Act · 07-09-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gebodupa

I don't really see how someone who is 12 would benefit from it either, unless they were 7 when they came here. But then, why do they have to be less than 12?

have to see what you are referring to. but yes, they must be 12. they have a little rough as they have to do two years of college/military service by the time they are 18. it would be wise for them to take as long as they can in filling out their application.

logic is that we want to get people that can benefit the country. if one wants to get technical, that five-year old that came when they were six months old can benefit, but must wait like 12 years before they can even apply. and having to wait that plan isn't the point. plus DREAM is a one-time thing that isn't going to be around for in eight years.

jimqu718 · 07-10-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by h3wlett

LMFAO. You might want to consider heading back to college for some more English.

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Overall, this study's findings is good news. The fact that the DREAM Act's requirements are so stringent may make it more palatable to those who oppose it.
This should be made a major argument when speaking about the legislation.
However, all our well-intentioned foot-soldiers who speak on behalf of us publicly emphasize the wrong points, such as that we are entitled to legalization just because we were slighted from birth by our parents. This is the wrong approach and only proves to make opponents more angry.

We must demonstrate to the public that most of the potential beneficiaries of the DREAM Act currently are making or have made good progress toward earning a tertiary education. This is how we distinguish ourselves from the broader undocumented group in this nation. This not only bolsters the DREAM Act's primary purpose as a means of promoting literacy and knowledge, but also illustrates that we are a small group with the ability to contribute to this nation rather than just leech its benefits.

As a last thought, I think it would be in our best interest if we prevent those among us with stereotypical immigrant appearances and accents from speaking publicly about the DREAM Act. To the average onlooker, listening to a plea from such a person appears no different than seeing a bandanna-wearing, Mexican flag-toting protester.

lol , i think i might head back once i save enough man, the only problem i have is written and grammar, speaking is no proble m for me as far as i know.

plz-724 · 07-10-2010, 05:38 PM

LMFAO. You might want to consider heading back to college for some more English.

Hahahahah!!!! I seriously thought the same thing right after I read it. Then I thought about it some more and it's not that funny.

FrankoKid · 07-11-2010, 03:10 AM

I started kindergarten here then went back to Mexico in third grade and half of fourth then came back and finished high school here last year (2009) but 5 years ago i went on vacation to mexico with my Visa and came back thats the last time i went, after that it expired. im now 19 about to be 20 in september. I also have taken two classes at college, and never been in problems with the law. Do i qualify ?

michaelz50 · 07-12-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankoKid

I started kindergarten here then went back to Mexico in third grade and half of fourth then came back and finished high school here last year (2009) but 5 years ago i went on vacation to mexico with my Visa and came back thats the last time i went, after that it expired. im now 19 about to be 20 in september. I also have taken two classes at college, and never been in problems with the law. Do i qualify ?

I read the bill the other time, and it said that you can still quailify if you haven't been out of the country for 180 days, or 90. I can't remember. Read through it, it's kind of confusing because of all the legal terms.

Also, guys, the article says that some DREAMies wouldn't qualify since they are in the workforce. Does this mean that if you are working, you wont be able to qualify? I mean, many college DREAMers work because they have to. Can someone clarify this?

OrlandoDREAM Act · 07-14-2010, 05:40 PM

you have to here for five years. so it doesn't look like you will right now.

OrlandoDREAM Act · 07-14-2010, 08:53 PM

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(A) the alien has been physically present in the United States for a continuous period of not less than 5 years immediately preceding the date of enactment of this Act, and had not yet reached the age of 16 years at the time of initial entry;

so yeah, unless that vacation was short, you are out. you should be ok.

Immigrant · 07-19-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OrlandoDREAM Act

the report is wrong to say that those 35 and over get in if they have the college education. DREAM doesn't say that. if the person turns 35 the day DREAM becomes law, that person is out regardless if they never graduated or have a GED or have a phd.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.729:

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SEC. 6. RETROACTIVE BENEFITS UNDER THIS ACT.

If, on the date of enactment of this Act, an alien has satisfied all the requirements of subparagraphs (A) through (E) of section 4(a)(1) and section 5(d)(1)(D), the Secretary of Homeland Security may adjust the status of the alien to that of a conditional resident in accordance with section 4. The alien may petition for removal of such condition at the end of the conditional residence period in accordance with section 5(c) if the alien has met the requirements of subparagraphs (A), (B), and (C) of section 5(d)(1) during the entire period of conditional residence.

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SEC. 4. CANCELLATION OF REMOVAL AND ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF CERTAIN LONG-TERM RESIDENTS WHO ENTERED THE UNITED STATES AS CHILDREN.

(F) the alien had not yet reached the age of 35 years on the date of the enactment of this Act.

As you can see, those 35 and over do qualify under the retroactive benefits provision if they have a college degree before the day of enactment in the senate version. The whole idea is that there are very few illegals 35 and over with both US high school and college degree, so it doesn't matter if you let those in.

Age cap is not an issue with House version of the bill at all.

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