Racial Prejudice & The DA - Page 2

For better or for worse, the immigration debate is focused on Hispanics, and legislation will pass or fail because of us. It will depend on how hard we continue to work towards a legalization program and at the same time, how long will we be willing to endure prejudice and injustice as a group. In short, I disagree with your theory that having a racially diverse, multi-faceted group being portrayed in the media would make it more politically palatable to pass the DA. People who don't want foreigners in their country do not care where you came from or wether you are hispanic or not. I hear comments from native U.S. citizens here in Seattle, as liberal a city as it can get, about how all the Asian foreigners take slots at UW from regular Americans. I've heard it in Portland too.

DA recipients are diverse in reality. Also in reality, not all are students, but can benefit from DA by becoming students. And the whole story about the Mexicans waving Mexican flags is soooo 2006 when Lou Dobbs focused obsessively on those images and perpretated them for years. I think those people have seen the error of their ways. It is unfortunate that your posts sound bigoted; I really don't think that was your original intent. I do however believe that you wrote your genuine thoughts with your guard down and that they do show some of your biases. Am I going to loose sleep tonight because of them? No. I too have said and written things in the past that I wish could take back or articulate better, but I learned from the experience.

I see what you're saying Withchemicals, except there's a really fine line and in some ways the ideas seem to overlap. Either way, I have to agree that broadening the beneficiaries' spectrum on the media would help the public view the issue in a different light, but who's to say that would sway in our favor. May be for those saying that there's a mexican invasion and what not, but beyond that, everyone's still broken the law, etc, etc.

Well then go out there and do something about it then, and if not then quit complaining.

You guys are barely starting to figure this out about withchemicals...

Not to go off topic...

But: Cali = Mexican/Asian people! (No surprise, that UCLA would have many undocumented asian students)

In Florida, the asian population was like < 1%, after I moved to Cali, I realized they were all out here.

And yes, DA being widely represented by every race might help us in getting a more "global face"..But regardless those against DA, are against illegals period.. Even if we were brought here as small chiclets and want nothing more than to be normal Americans. :'(

Uh, excuse me? Are you serious? Do you actually know anything about whom you inanely insult before embarrassing yourself?

I've already sent the journalist a letter and left a message on his voice mail box telling him to revise or perhaps write a new article showing a more comprehensive and instructive article to perhaps show people the other figures of our situation.

In addition, ever since I've returned to LA a few months ago, I've used my connections and worked with my undocumented immigrant friends in my hometown (mostly church people; I think you guys know David Cho. He's quite a bigger figure than I am...) to have the local Korean radio stations talk more about the CIR and the DREAM Act in order to urge the local Korean undocumented immigrants to come out and increase our numbers. Unfortunately, there's a language barrier that prevents one race from influencing all the other undocumented immigrant communities (the Chinese/Vietnamese/etc...).

Is this doing nothing? Pray tell me, what have you exactly done for the DREAM Act, "Cisco", disregarding posting worthless e-books on this forum and spouting nonsense without reading any posts?

Again, spouting nonsense without reading. I've already clarified that I was not implying that one method of "illegal" immigration is more valid than another. Obviously, you have not bothered to read. It seems that you still have not learned to read and comprehend ever since the last time I shredded you apart, and now you're on a bitter rampage but unfortunately making yourself look like a fool.

I'm offended that you'd imply that I don't do anything and just complain. Again, tell me what you have done for the DREAM Act. If not, shut up? Thanks, bye!

No, i could care less withchemicals.

And by the looks of the other posts and your original thread, it looks like the only embarrassment here is you.

Now don't continue replying to me, because i don't have the time to argue with you, like you do with the other members of this forum.

withchemicals:

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you suggested in this thread. The fact of the matter is that much of the enmity against forms of immigration reform like the DREAM Act stems from nativists' perceptions of Hispanic people in general. For many years, the image of a "lazy Mexican" was the first thing that came to the minds of American citizens. This representation has transformed in more recent times to that of drug traffickers, human smugglers, and deadly gang members. This, more so than people's innate aversion to letting outsiders in, is the heart of our movement's image crisis.

People such as the minutemen, Tea-Party members, and conservative Republicans, find the prospect of conceding to such a group absolutely abhorrent. As such, your suggestion that we try to paint a new picture of ourselves by highlighting our true diversity is very astute.

From the perspective of the DREAM Act, we must highlight our intelligence. This is NOT done by staging pathetic sit-ins and hunger-strikes, for as anyone who has taken a high school political science class knows, such acts of demonstration are bar none, the most ineffective way of influencing legislation.

Furthermore, we must dissuade those of us with stereotypical Hispanic appearances and accents from speaking on our behalf. This is something that we can do from within our group since it is contingent on repressing our Hispanic colleagues' inherent extraversion and instead highlighting the humble, unboisterous nature of people of Asian and European descent. If there is to be another immigration rally, it should NOT consist of members wearing bandannas covering their faces and waving Mexican flags.

My comments are not intended to insult anyone who reads them. They are merely suggestions.

In other words, a person is Hispanic, therefore that person is naturally extroverted... If you're sincerely not trying to insult anyone, then you wouldn't make irrational statements.
Your vocabulary is extraordinary and you sound very intelligent and verbally intimidating, but you're no wise owl in my opinion. Nor does it sound like you understand the meaning of humble. I don't believe that we're satisfied with our place in life, and since we continuously vent about how we should be more than we currently are, then how is it that a dreamer can be humble?
Nonetheless, I agree with a handful of what you said. It'd be nice to see a variety of flags at an immigration rally.
And, to an extent, I think I can see where you and withchemicals are trying to come from. The majority of illegal immigrants are probably the Mexicans that are not needed in Mexico. They're not the most presentable group of illegal immigrants. And when they protest, though it sounds f*cked up, I sometimes dislike identifying myself with them. Had to put my head down in shame, but I'm just being honest.