Operation Mass Pro DREAM/CIR commentary - Page 2

Originally Posted by Jelly Bean Lover

My idea was not to convince right-wingers of anything. It was simply to try to reclaim public space for our point of view. Right now it is all crazy right-wing stuff. If we post like mad on anything related to DREAM or CIR, then it makes it clear not everybody favors the "deport everyone" plan.

Moreover, even conservatives are not as crazy when it comes to DREAM as when it comes to CIR, and I was asking to focus on DREAM first. Follow the link above, though, and you will find a lot of misinformation about DREAMers and what they want. If we don't challenge these lies, then people will just accept them. This is part of the reason why the politicians won't do anything, because everybody accepts lies about immigration and there is thus a large phalanx of people that are against doing anything except deporting.

In the end, what I was proposing is that people here do about as much as they are already doing on DAP. The only difference is that instead of posting here to a sympathetic audience, they post elsewhere too (a few comments a day) and challenge people that oppose us. If we have time to post responses here, why not on the comment section of immigration articles where we can challenge lies and reach a broader public? Why is that more wasted effort than what the majority of people already do on DAP?

Originally Posted by Jelly Bean Lover

The best example of this problem is that I continually hear people saying from the right that Obama only wants his "amnesty" plan to get as many illegal voters for 2012 as he can get. They say this all the time on the right, despite that the soonest anyone would become a citizen is 11-15 years. I was listening to a local radio station in CA the other day, and they had a guy from the UFW on there talking about AgJobs. One of the callers called in and said it was all about getting Obama voters for 2012, and even the ignorant talk show host accepted that till the UFW guy pointed out it would be 15 years before citizenship. Then the haters couldn't say anything cause they were wrong. If we did that on a mass basis, maybe we could claim public support at the expense of the right, at which point the politicians will have to listen.

Originally Posted by Invictus

You're right. People need to find articles, register an account, think for themselves (most difficult part), and post a reasonable response.

Too much work for them.

But truthfully, it's fun too. Comments sections are like forums, where you interact with people.

By the way, where do you get your news articles from?