Should you leave?! (Here is your answer perhaps) - Page 6

I guess we can all agree, all out of us are in different circumstances. I left because i was getting older, and i did get my wish for what i fought for (DA vote). I left couple of months after Dream Act vote... I was upset of course that it didnt pass, but i mean thats life.

My advice is if you are still pretty young early 20's can afford or go to school, stick with it! Do what you can control. If you are getting much older, and you already have your education and have been sitting on your butt for a year or two then do your research there are other options..

Believe me, i know how it feels to sit on your ass depressed because you cant use your degree, your parents complaining, visiting these other boards saying that you are useless illegal alien etc etc been there done that.. I did what was best for me, because of my decision i have been able to do so many things that i wouldnt be able, if i didnt leave the US..I left the US with a degree in my pocket, and $2000, thats it.

Worked for me, may of course not work for you. Stay positive, eventually something will happen, in this political climate i just dont know when no one can say.. I can say one thing though when Obama was elected i was 150% sure CIR or DA would pass, i am just shocked that it hasnt yet

Leaving is always an option, but plans must start early. I tend to abstain from encouraging people to leave because I did not do so myself but its something I was planning on doing so; after HS and after college. I did not leave after HS because my state offered in-state was passed (Texas) and did not leave after college because I ended up getting married. Regardless, at both forks in the road the option to go to Mexico was always the best alternative compared to waiting in uncertainty.

As I prepared to graduate HS I was researching universities and had outlined my return to Mexico. I had most of my paperwork ready and was pretty much waiting just to graduate, DREAM Act did not even exist back then (2001). Then four years later in 2005, before meeting my wife my Sr. year of college, I was already scheduling interviews with companies the likes of Halliburton or Schlumberger in Mexico. There are many foreign companies in Mexico that will for sure value an American degree and the language skills. Side note, American companies wanted to interview me way before I graduated but told them I could not interview them until I graduated since I could not come back from Mexico where the interview was to take place : ) .... PEMEX rejected me even though I graduated from the best university in my field, those bureaucratic assholes! Regardless, like its been said, a degree is not something to waste. If you have an engineering/science degree, milk it! Success can take place anywhere, if you've made it this far in the U.S. why will your abilities be inhibited by moving? Also, note there are plenty of graduate schools in Mexico and that there are many American universities with programs based in Mexico i.e. UT-MBA which I looked into in case I went to Mexico. This is applicable to other countries as well, research must be done though. So if moving back is for you plan it and do as much as you can from this side, unlike our parents, the internet allows us to network from distances, research and plan our moves; take advantage of this, do it right.

To add to what's been said, Mexico is not as bad as people think, especially not for someone with bilingual abilities and a degree helps even more. Of course science based and business degrees are a plus but with the many American and foreign companies in Mexico, opportunities do exist.
I am an American citizen now and I've been to Mexico quite often and it seems more relaxed than the US like iamtired mentioned, they don't live to work. I've considered moving back in the near future. I've also worked in Brazil, where I've met engineers from Mexico go work and establish their lives quite comfortably. They've showed me that just because you start work in Mexico does not mean you'll work there forever. Brazil is another place I'd like to move as well.

The U.S. does not want to capitalize on the human capital at its fingertips with DREAMies, don't enable this waste. Yes its scary but after HS we're all adults, if your parents left everything behind for their dream, why don't you have the same courage to start anew? Why dwell on a situation you can do little about; cut your losses. If you want wait then its your decision, I did not want to be here in 2010 with a degree hanging on the wall for five years now with no real meaning.

I always wanted to be American and am one now, but America is not as pretty DREAMies often think it is, I mean we really have no basis of comparison right? Truthfully, I actually felt more freedom in Brazil and Mexico. America wants to waste your intellect and inhibit your potential, why allow them to do this? The US is no longer the powerhouse it used to be and you're no longer the child brought here against your will. We live in a global economy and companies outside the US will value American education, milk it if you can.

For whiteout or any other troll, yes I could have left after HS had it not been for instate but now I work and pay good amount of taxes, I mean good. America has received its return on investment and will continue to reap the benefits for the rest of my professional career, well unless my wife, the American citizen, decides she wants to move outside the country because ironically enough, she hates us paying so much in taxes haha.

Could of not said it better.. Good Luck to everyone.

So it would be really stupid to return to your country of origin with no degree and money ? What if one can't obtain any of it. Basically, starting from square one in a new place.

You can do it, but it won't be easy. It also depends on what country you are moving to.

Well I might be moving to Mexico, Mexico City to be exact. Do you think Mexico would be a moderate place to be or worse? I don't have a degree, I'm going to graduate from high school this year and well, yeah, I'm totally gonna start from zero. OR, should I do go to college here. Luckily I live in Texas and I can pay intuition. One question, do I have to do two years of CC to get a degree or what? The whole "getting a degree" process is confusing. Thanks

Well I am from Mexico. I don't see myself jumping on the education bandwagon right when I get there because I would have to work to have a living. I don't really have anyone back home so I would have to find someone to keep up with me for a month or two , so I can settle in.

Moreover, if I was to move I would not want to stay in Mexico forever. I would look for other options in case things are really bad there. I also have to be realistic that if I go back then education would probably be on the back end of things since I would have no support. Either way I'm screwed

I just don't want to leave because I am scared. However, I am getting older and I'm not seeing any progress. Time flies like a mother'fr and it sucks.

My advice is if you can pay for college here, do it. Even if it means having to work low wage jobs while you finish school.

If paying for school here is not an option, then going back may be an option to look into. I am not from Mexico, I am from Venezuela, so going back for me is a bit tougher. Venezuela is turning socialist, and even though the country is rich in oil and gas deposits, most people have very low paying jobs degree or no degree. If I decide to leave I would be leaving someplace else. The only positive for me would be that college is completely free but having to go to college and then work under a semi socialist society wouldn't go well with my capitalist entrepeneurial persona. I'd rather be dead. Luckily for me, I am Jewish by virtue of my mother so I can walk into any israeli consulate and get a Passport but moving to war torn Israel is not much more positive than going to Chavez land. In other words, I am f*ucked.

I decided I'll wait until next year. If by next summer nothing happens I'll be boarding a plane somewhere, I just don't know where yet.

I'd take advantage of the in-state tuition in Texas before leaving is an option. Gives something productive to do while waiting for reform and an American degree would surely help if leaving is the route to take. Any question about going to college in Texas can be answered here, http://sites.google.com/a/cheis.net/www/home. If you still have questions PM me.

It really does suck what's going on in Venezuela. Israel isn't the best place to go to either. I wasn't raised in Mexico but I've read that the Mexican government gladly accepts any immigrants that are willing to give back to society, cause no trouble, and help boost the economy. I'm pretty sure you'd be very welcome in México since my people are a warm and kindhearted people. Best of luck to you my friend.