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I actually believe that parents would prefer to sacrifice themselves so that their kids see a better future. A parent's responsibility is to look for the welfare of their children. I'm a parent so save the comments.

CIR is virtually impossible, too idealistic, too general, too good to be true. DREAM exists within CIR. DREAM alone on the contrary is more conservative and therefore more realistic if pushed forward.

All or nothing bets are too risky, CIR is an all or nothing bet.
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The "advocates" including Gutierrez helped doom CIR back in 2007 with the sama all-or-nothing approach. Back then the 'issue' was the guest worker program (which is like a LEGAL way to exploit immigrants by enslaving them to an employer rather than to employment). He wants to walk in lockstep and, I quote, "if we fail, let's fail together"...Together with whom exactly? Because lawmakers are citizens of this country whom cannot be deported. DreamAct should be in place before the start of the academic year in September because it is the fair and right thing to do.
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What about other illegals who can't benefit from Dream Act?

It's unacceptable for you to gain at their expenses, who could be your fathers, mothers, and uncles, with additional enforcement measures. If you are illegal, then your parents most likely are illegal too, no?
Most people here never made a choice to come here illegally, so I hardly think they will be profiting just because the government does the right thing. CIR has no chance, and that is so obvious to anybody who has been paying attention. It would be better to get something than nothing.
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What about other illegals who can't benefit from Dream Act?

It's unacceptable for you to gain at their expenses, who could be your fathers, mothers, and uncles, with additional enforcement measures. If you are illegal, then your parents most likely are illegal too, no?

The other illegals broke the law, the only people that should have a chance to be legal are the people who came here as children and grew up as americans they had no choice when they came to the united states. Don't get me wrong either my parents are undocumeted and yes they brought me here as a child but they also risked my future and yes I also know that they wanted to give me a better life. My parents realize what they did was not right they said if they could go back in time they would have done it the right way. So I say the only people who should be given a chance is all those dreamers who grew up as true americans. I say that the only way the dream act has a chance to pass is if it passess alone without the CIR.
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If you guys look at the situation dispassionately (as in not personally benefiting from the legislation), I think we can start to understand the vantage point of Senator Reid here.

If you imagine that you are documented/pro-immigration and looked at two different plans - one plan legalizes less than a million people along with more stringent border and interior enforcement and the other plan legalizes 11 million people along with more stringent border and interior enforcement - you'll obviously choose the second plan that legalizes more people because the second plan actually solves the problem policy-wise instead of leaving millions of people without status.

I wish Dream could pass stand alone but it looks like it can't without security provisions attached to it. Unfortunately, the security provisions needs to be saved for a CIR/Dream Act bill.
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