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Who's the better candidate in CA? - Page 2

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^^^ Damn George W Bush
He was starting to push for us at the end, but I guess he was sort of considered senile by that point so no one paid any attention anymore.

I think Brown would still be better then Bush.
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He was starting to push for us at the end, but I guess he was sort of considered senile by that point so no one paid any attention anymore.

I think Brown would still be better then Bush.
When it comes to immigration reform, George W. Bush has done more than Obama has this point. Immigration reform was actually a priority during his first year in office, but then that asshole Bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda retards struck. Not only did September 11 put immigration reform at the very end of the list, it also emboldened the anti-immigrant movement.
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Democrats. Anything that involves conservatives don't belong in the ballots
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Personally i don't like Democrats anymore than Republicans but i guess you have to go with the lesser of two evils, so i would say Dems. It was funny but i was reading the Huffington post that Fiorina was asked how she planned to pay for all the tax cuts that she wanted to do, and she had no answer lol. I just can't understand how they plan to cut taxes while the country owes like 1.4 trillion dollars, the math doesn't add up. Cutting taxes and cutting the deficit, you can't have it both ways.
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Its really interesting, right now there is a huge movement in florida of voters signing a petition to recall the election for a whole bunch of elected officials because they wanted to increase taxes in order to not have to fire thousands of teachers, police, firemen, eliminate many services. The public is outraged that they would increase taxes and they are going to take them out of office.

Meanwhile the people that claim they will bring a bunch of tax cuts here and most other places are the most popular in the polls, but I have no idea how they will accomplish that without firing everyone and really !@#$ing up the economy.

The general public is unreasonable, they want more services for significantly less money and more people working while decreasing the debt.
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Are you guys serious?

How many Democrats voted for Dream Act?

And how many Republicans?

Our safest bet is a democrat, 99% of the times.
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Are you guys serious?

How many Democrats voted for Dream Act?

And how many Republicans?

Our safest bet is a democrat, 99% of the times.
I'm just saying that Democrats, Republicans, politicians in general, are all full of shit. Just look at how Obama promises one thing to the Hispanic community, just because he needs the Hispanic vote in the upcoming elections. Then he turns around and says something else, like we are working on it, we'll work on it next year, then next year, and then when things heat up, he only gives a glimpse of action. My point is, promises are meaningless without action. I'm tired of waiting, and i believe i have it easier than most people because i have a job, car, go to school, etc. But i have friends, and a gf who don't. We need action now, not words of support, shit anyone can give us those.
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Anyone could give us words of support, but this is the president that would ultimately have the responsibility to sign this into law when it passes. I am a bit divided, I think that maybe he could have done more, but he did bring a lot of issues that just took way too long with the republicans filibustering everything.

The only good thing I see in him is that with the decreased popularity in several important issues he has not decided to back down simply because the polls say they are unpopular, he continues on supporting the issues, but I do think that he could have done a lot more to make sure there was more support on the issues he supported rather then delegating that job to someone else.

Either way, imagine president Bush, he would have probably compromised his stance on immigration based on the polls, all the changes that are affecting the immigrant community happened during his presidency, it is true that he did start supporting immigration at the beginning and at the end, hey he was considering an issue that had it gone to fruition would have given me and over a million people legal status, an actual amnesty, but any acts that would have benefited immigrants in this country stopped while he was president and after the 9-11 attacks. Or how about McCain/Palin, the person that has demonstrated that he is most adamantly against any path to legal status for people that are already undocumented in this country and the poster child and leader for the Tea Party Movement. Obama sounds like the best we have at this point.
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so.. does brown support Dream act or what?
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Senator Boxer supports immigration reform and DREAM act.

Governor Brown supports comprehensive immigration reform and assume DREAM act as well ( debate w/Whitman).

Mrs. Florina has stated that she does support DREAM act but against immigration reform( Debate w/senator boxer).

Mrs. Whitman is against both ( gotta find my sources again on this one).

But Senator McCain supported immigration reform and DREAM act as well. What guarantee is there that Mrs. Fiorina will not come up with an excuse and not vote DREAM act/ immigration reform when it comes up? In my personal opinion she will be a no vote on both. She is probably just trying to attract some voters to her side.
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