New Version of DREAM introduced Wednesday Dec. 1 - Page 14

This makes me really happy!!!

Exshired!

Guys, this or next week will make or break our future for must of us!

I agree we should stay on track -- BUT --once we know the new provisions for sure it would be nice to be able to call on-the-fence/ "soft no" Senators and say " this bill has been tightened to address some concerns, please take another look"

Some of these changes seem to fall into the
"why the hell are they going to get a better deal than my family" category. This is what the Rep. wants to be able to answer for the voters.

Many U.S. citizens don't have health care, and many more are fearful/resentful of Health Reform or that adding more people will increase their own costs and actually paying for COBRA would cause many folks to have to give up eating. -- So reassurance that you won't get care that they don't will help. You probably wouldn't have qualified for any of the good parts anyway.

Same with any of the in-state/ out-of state/ loans / work-study provisions. -- Suck it up. Seriously. You'll be able to work legally. So you pay for your tuition one or two classes at a time like many, many, many other people do. You will have 10 years to do it. Loans aren't a guarantee anyway, you usually need a co-signer regardless - and often they will be turned down due to lack of credit as well.

The sponsoring Parents thing ... this is one of the biggies. What I don't understand is Why aren't "we" letting the public know that since your parents are here without status ( obviously - that is why you are a DREAMER) -- they face the same barriers and bars and 10 year bans that any other
person without documentation faces ???? So if you are 25 now, you have conditional status for ten years, citizenship in another five, you go to sponsor your now 60+ parent -- they won't be approved unless their is 'extreme hardship" TO YOU, the citizen ( hard to prove at that point in your life that you need your mom in order to live here ). And if they are somehow approved/get to waive the ban in their sixties or seventies... that would just mean you, personally, are assuming financial care of a senior citizen -

The current S.3963 Dream Act Bill already has the language for younger than 30 years :
SEC. 4. CANCELLATION OF REMOVAL AND ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF CERTAIN LONG-TERM RESIDENTS WHO ENTERED THE UNITED STATES AS CHILDREN.

(a) Special Rule for Certain Long-term Residents Who Entered the United States as Children-
(1) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of law and except as otherwise provided in this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security may cancel removal of, and adjust to the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, subject to the conditional basis described in section 5, an alien who is inadmissible or deportable from the United States, if the alien demonstrates that--
(A) the alien has been physically present in the United States for a continuous period of not less than 5 years immediately preceding the date of enactment of this Act and was younger than 16 years of age on the date the alien initially entered the United States;
(B) the alien has been a person of good moral character since the date of the enactment of this Act;
(C) the alien--
(i) is not inadmissible under paragraph (2), (3), (6)(E), (10)(A), or (10)(C) of section 212(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)); and
(ii) is not deportable under paragraph (1)(E), (2), or (4) of section 237(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1227(a));
(D) the alien--
(i) has been admitted to an institution of higher education in the United States; or
(ii) has earned a high school diploma or obtained a general education development certificate in the United States;
(E) the alien has never been under a final administrative or judicial order of exclusion, deportation, or removal, unless the alien--
(i) has remained in the United States under color of law after such order was issued; or
(ii) received the order before attaining the age of 16 years; and
(F) the alien was younger than 30 years of age on the date of the enactment of this Act.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...1ghwDco:e2091:

Good, then I am still covered if they pass this during this session as I won't turn 30 until next summer. Plus, I am in college already.

I do feel horrible for the people who are a bit older than me. I wish and will pray that the age remains at 35.

They are raising temporary status to make us wait longer for citizenship. Instead of a 11 year wait it'll be a 15 year wait.

I don't mind waiting longer to be honest, but damn I feel horrible for all the dreamies who have been paying instate tuition and now have to pay out of state =(

I read in a different thread here that Mexico was expanding their healthcare to their citizens in the U.S. can anyone confirm or deny?

What felony did our parents commit? Being here illegally is a civil offense, similar to a misdemeanor. (Punishable by a small fine or a short time in Jail) A felony is punishable by a large fine and/or long time in Jail.

That's the old bill, we are talking about a NEW BILL, Sure something have to change. and you can expect that the retroactive provision would not be there in the new bill. .

We are talking about S. 3992... Not S. 3963 .........

Why would they make a new one if the can use s.3963 ...
So yeah , I can expect some border security and the retroactive to be out in the new bill.

In my opinion, the 10 year wait only makes sense if there is a border security measure attached to the bill.