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Obama Enters 112th With Little GOP Support For Dream Act

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12-23-2010, 04:45 PM
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While Pres. Obama declared at his recent news conference that he will not give up on working with Republicans to pass the Dream Act, come January he isn't likely to find much support among the GOP ranks.
Only four Republicans who voted this month for the bill that would create a pathway to citizenship for children of illegal immigrants will be members of the 112th Congress: Sens. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Latino Florida Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart (R) and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R). Meanwhile, Obama loses six senators that voted for the Dream Act to more conservative replacements.
Without winning over any new senators, Obama will start the 112th Congress with only 49 members of the Senate supporting the Dream Act.
Six out of eight House Republicans who supported the Dream Act are either retiring at the end of the 111th Congress or lost re-election bouts. That group includes Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.), Joseph Cao (R-La.), Mike Castle (R-Del.), Charles Djou (R-Hawaii), Vern Ehlers (R-Mich.) and Bob Inglis (R-S.C.).
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However, Obama will will still need to pick up at least 40 House Republicans to pass the Dream Act if the remaining 21 Democratic opponents do not back the bill again. That, of course, assumes Republican leadership even allows a vote on the Dream Act in the first place.
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12-23-2010, 06:10 PM
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I wouldnt be so negative about just one article I know we face tough odds but something will come out of the 112 congress I bet
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What will come out of the 112 Congress is just another "NO" to the Dream Act.
Mark my words. Obama can talk all he wants about how disappointed he is and how committed he is to the Dream Act, but what it really comes down to is that he doesn't have the Republican support to pass anything that has to do with immigration.
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12-23-2010, 06:20 PM
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Passing of DREAM Act is very unlikely in next Congress, Republicans say
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By Shankar Vedantam
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, December 23, 2010; 3:03 PM

Congressional Republicans are pronouncing President Obama's proposal that the next Congress overhaul the country's immigration laws as dead before arrival.

In his year-end news conference Wednesday, Obama said his biggest regret about the recent lame-duck session of Congress was the defeat of the DREAM Act, a measure that offered a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants brought to the country as children.

"It is heartbreaking," Obama said, as he explained how such immigrants often realized that they were without legal status only when they tried to go to college or join the military. "That can't be who we are. To have our kids, classmates of our children, who are suddenly under this shadow of fear through no fault of their own. They didn't break the law - they were kids."

Congressional Republicans said in interviews Thursday that their concerns about the measure remained strong, and both House and Senate GOP leaders said they would fight any attempt to legalize any of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country before the administration secured the nation's southern border with Mexico.

"It is pointless to talk about any new immigration bills that grant amnesty until we secure the border, since such bills will only encourage more illegal immigration," incoming House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Tex.) said in a statement.

In an interview, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), the ranking Republican on the House immigration subcommittee, accused Obama of playing politics with immigration and toying with Latino voters.

"It is extraordinarily unlikely that any version of comprehensive immigration reform that includes amnesty will go through the House of Representatives," he said.


Obama's call on Congress to pass the DREAM Act "polarizes Americans along the lines of race and ethnicity," King added. "He implies there is a realistic chance - he knows better, and therefore it makes it a political statement designed to gin up his base and pit Americans against Americans."

During the recent contentious congressional debate over the act, Republicans said the measure would reward violators of the country's immigration laws and encourage new waves of illegal immigration. They also said that the measure was lax in allowing some lawbreakers to gain citizenship, and said that the requirement that DREAM Act beneficiaries obtain two years of college education or military service set the bar too low.

Revising the DREAM Act to eliminate those issues would not solve the underlying problem with the measure, said Stephen Miller, a spokesman for Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), who led Senate Republicans in their opposition to the measure.

"When you're traveling in the wrong direction, modest alterations don't make a difference," Miller said. "You need to get off the road and head down a different one. As Senator Sessions has said, the first thing we need to do is end the massive illegality at the border."

Sessions has previously termed attempts to combine tougher enforcement with measures to provide legalization for undocumented immigrants a "ruse," because such measures would grant legal status to undocumented immigrants immediately, whereas it would defer border security for the future.

Recent analyses suggest that the number of people illegally crossing the border has declined - although no one knows how much of the decline is attributable to tougher border security and how much is because the recent recession has lessened the availability of jobs.

"My administration has done more on border security than any administration in recent years," Obama said Wednesday, highlighting sharp increases in resources for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, border patrol and surveillance. Obama said he was open to new measures to improve border security but also wanted the incoming Congress to pass measures that legalized some undocumented immigrants.

"I think it is absolutely appropriate for the American people to expect that we do not have porous borders and anyone can come in here anytime," Obama said. "But I also think about those kids and I want to do right by them."
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12-23-2010, 06:24 PM
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I try to stay away from pesimissm nonetheless, stuff like this makes me feel a bit uneasy. It like fuck! What in the fuck will happen? Yes or no? Man oh man, these GOP big wigs are no joke. They simply don't want to budge. I wonder if they'd say the age limit is 30, a bachelors degree is required and a Dreamer can not sponsor anyone. I'd be cool with that....
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^Same.

My family is currently being petitioned right now anyway. The Dream Act would make the wait so much shorter.
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The redistricting is the killer that the Republicans are in charge of because they won the power in the last election. If you get to draw up all the voting districts then all they have to do is break up the democratic districts and it is done like here in Texas. The Supreme court already upheld it Democrats will not have a chance till another cencus comes along in 10 years. That is why I know all the Obama crap is just non sense.
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12-23-2010, 10:25 PM
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Passing of DREAM Act is very unlikely in next Congress, Republicans say
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By Shankar Vedantam
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, December 23, 2010; 3:03 PM

Congressional Republicans are pronouncing President Obama's proposal that the next Congress overhaul the country's immigration laws as dead before arrival.

In his year-end news conference Wednesday, Obama said his biggest regret about the recent lame-duck session of Congress was the defeat of the DREAM Act, a measure that offered a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants brought to the country as children.

"It is heartbreaking," Obama said, as he explained how such immigrants often realized that they were without legal status only when they tried to go to college or join the military. "That can't be who we are. To have our kids, classmates of our children, who are suddenly under this shadow of fear through no fault of their own. They didn't break the law - they were kids."

Congressional Republicans said in interviews Thursday that their concerns about the measure remained strong, and both House and Senate GOP leaders said they would fight any attempt to legalize any of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country before the administration secured the nation's southern border with Mexico.

"It is pointless to talk about any new immigration bills that grant amnesty until we secure the border, since such bills will only encourage more illegal immigration," incoming House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Tex.) said in a statement.

In an interview, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), the ranking Republican on the House immigration subcommittee, accused Obama of playing politics with immigration and toying with Latino voters.

"It is extraordinarily unlikely that any version of comprehensive immigration reform that includes amnesty will go through the House of Representatives," he said.


Obama's call on Congress to pass the DREAM Act "polarizes Americans along the lines of race and ethnicity," King added. "He implies there is a realistic chance - he knows better, and therefore it makes it a political statement designed to gin up his base and pit Americans against Americans."

During the recent contentious congressional debate over the act, Republicans said the measure would reward violators of the country's immigration laws and encourage new waves of illegal immigration. They also said that the measure was lax in allowing some lawbreakers to gain citizenship, and said that the requirement that DREAM Act beneficiaries obtain two years of college education or military service set the bar too low.

Revising the DREAM Act to eliminate those issues would not solve the underlying problem with the measure, said Stephen Miller, a spokesman for Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), who led Senate Republicans in their opposition to the measure.

"When you're traveling in the wrong direction, modest alterations don't make a difference," Miller said. "You need to get off the road and head down a different one. As Senator Sessions has said, the first thing we need to do is end the massive illegality at the border."

Sessions has previously termed attempts to combine tougher enforcement with measures to provide legalization for undocumented immigrants a "ruse," because such measures would grant legal status to undocumented immigrants immediately, whereas it would defer border security for the future.

Recent analyses suggest that the number of people illegally crossing the border has declined - although no one knows how much of the decline is attributable to tougher border security and how much is because the recent recession has lessened the availability of jobs.

"My administration has done more on border security than any administration in recent years," Obama said Wednesday, highlighting sharp increases in resources for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, border patrol and surveillance. Obama said he was open to new measures to improve border security but also wanted the incoming Congress to pass measures that legalized some undocumented immigrants.

"I think it is absolutely appropriate for the American people to expect that we do not have porous borders and anyone can come in here anytime," Obama said. "But I also think about those kids and I want to do right by them."
Hello everyone. I can understand why some people are "pessimistic"/"realistic" with the chances of the DREAM Act in the next congress--especially with these types of articles. However, I would be cautious with this work, which is undoubtedly manipulative. The title should have been "Passing of DREAM Act is very unlikely in next Congress, THREE Republicans say." I ask everyone to hope for the best and know that compromise can be possible. It's not like the Washington Post, although a credible source, released a signed letter revealing that ALL Republicans would oppose any immigration overhaul. Plus, inflexible legislators like Sessions, Smith, and Graham should not be considered as the entire GOP.
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Also, if you do some research, you will find that some GOP strategists have condemned the Senate Republicans who voted against the DREAM Act.
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I think history will repeat it self....if i am not misteking back in 2007 republicans controled house pass anti-immigration bills and senate reacted with passing of CIR.
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