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Conservatives want to redefine citizenship for illegal aliens' children - Page 2

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01-07-2011, 12:58 AM
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It is possible, but since you mention the CIR, what exactly is the CIR and what does it do specifically?
By CIR, I am referring to Comprehensive Immigration Reform.
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Do some research troll.... we are not here to spoon feed you
WTF dude, I just asked a question.. People on the forums are talking about the CIR and I just want to know what exactly the CIR is in their words, is that wrong?

SORRY for asking a question.. geez

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By CIR, I am referring to Comprehensive Immigration Reform.
Thanks, but what does it exactly do? (like how many people can qualify for it and etc)
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WTF dude, I just asked a question.. People on the forums are talking about the CIR and I just want to know what exactly the CIR is in their words, is that wrong?

SORRY for asking a question.. geez



Thanks, but what does it exactly do? (like how many people can qualify for it and etc)
Get used to it because its about 50/50 people like him that call people that are trying to work for same objective an idiot. But do a research on it there is so much CIR is comprhensive immigration reform it has a lot of laws put together to stop further immigration as well as a pathway to citizenship.
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It's definitely possible with a Republican president, filibuster-proof Republican congress, and a conservative Supreme Court.

I mean come on... American slavery anyone? Civil rights... It's possible.
shit nobody forced me to come here and I can leave when da fuk I feel....slavery lol...shit don't nobody own this paisano
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shit nobody forced me to come here and I can leave when da fuk I feel....slavery lol...shit don't nobody own this paisano
umm... ok. i was talking about rights.. you obviously didnt understand what i was trying to say.
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I recently read a very interesting book on the Holocaust. Nazis were able to distinguish Jews from half Jews, quarter Jews and so forth down to 1/16 of a Jew. That was a prescribed norm in the Third Reich by scientists on racial purity (exact terms from the Third Reich vocabulary).
You are not an American if you can't trace your roots to the Mayflower. What a pile of bull. Nazi party of the '30ies is Republican Party of today...
Exactly the first thought I had when I first heard about several republican senators pushing for not giving those children born to undocumented immigrants citizenship upon birth in this country. Especially when you take into consideration that your potential just legal status might be determined by which parent is undocumented, in the most extreme form of the bill I have heard from, I have not really done enough research on this though.

Its sometimes impressive what they are supporting and suggesting. If an undocumented immigrants gives birth to a child in this country and the child goes to school, finishes through school they might have the same predicament we have and could be deported to a country where they have absolutely no relation to, they were not even born in that country.

Now what if the country only considers its citizens as only those born within their borders, there are many countries like that? Would the individual born in the US who becomes an undocumented immigrant of the US not be able to claim citizenship to any country in the world?

What's crazy is that this proposed change in the law could potentially backfire in such a manner that if we were to consider two systems, both the same as current US law the individual would be severely limited and could not have any claim to legalized status in either country.

basically, two dreamers right now could have a baby in the US in the future, they were not present enough time in their foreign countries for their offspring to be considered citizens of their country, if their countries have the same system as the US, they would not have been present in their countries long enough and at the correct age to petition their children to become citizens of their foreign countries. And I think the potential of two dreamers right now being in a relationship and having a child is a very real possibility, while being technically undocumented in this country and may have come at such a young age that the foreign country if it where the same as the US would not recognize their children either.

The result could be crazy, a citizen of no-country in the world, with no legal status in any country in the world, essentially an actual alien of the earth, except born in the US.
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Get used to it because its about 50/50 people like him that call people that are trying to work for same objective an idiot. But do a research on it there is so much CIR is comprhensive immigration reform it has a lot of laws put together to stop further immigration as well as a pathway to citizenship.
Agree man, people like him are just idiots..Im just going to ignore him for now
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umm... ok. i was talking about rights.. you obviously didnt understand what i was trying to say.
He does no what he is talking about comparing slavery to the current immigration issue is ridiculous. We bought slaves and brought them to this country nobody bought any illegal immigrants and forced them to come to this country. Starting this type of rhetoric does nothing more than piss off anti-immigrant people as well as afro Americans as has been shown. You also need to realize that there in know other country in the world that would allow what we have here in the US as far as immigration. No other country would be as compassionate as we have and you need to think about that. Try whats happened here in the US in Georgia, Russia, France, Eastern European countries, Central American countries , Mexico the whole lot of immigrants would of been taken out of the country by gun point if they did not kill them like we have recently seen in Mexico. So, Next time you start yelling rights and discrimination you remember what all you are getting here in the US that no other country would give you.
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They're not going to make an amendment to the Constitution limiting citizenship, if takes more than a majority in the House - and thats all they have. They know they can't do it with what they have, I think this is just gamesmanship before immigration reform comes back as a legislative priority. They want to be able to point back at the recent past and show they tried to be tough. Besides, at this point it's not a vast majority of Republicans calling for this.
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He does no what he is talking about comparing slavery to the current immigration issue is ridiculous. We bought slaves and brought them to this country nobody bought any illegal immigrants and forced them to come to this country. Starting this type of rhetoric does nothing more than piss off anti-immigrant people as well as afro Americans as has been shown. You also need to realize that there in know other country in the world that would allow what we have here in the US as far as immigration. No other country would be as compassionate as we have and you need to think about that. Try whats happened here in the US in Georgia, Russia, France, Eastern European countries, Central American countries , Mexico the whole lot of immigrants would of been taken out of the country by gun point if they did not kill them like we have recently seen in Mexico. So, Next time you start yelling rights and discrimination you remember what all you are getting here in the US that no other country would give you.
you didn't get it either. and no, i didn't read all of this... summarize it in bullet points for me. but i do know that the gist of your post is that you didn't get it.
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