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04-28-2011, 01:20 AM
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Here are my honest views, probably shared by most Americans, on the topic of immigration. No offense intended.


Firstly the President should focus first on fixing the economy and advancing the public healthcare agenda before he acts on immigration. Existing citizens care about these pieces of legislation more so than legalizing people who shouldn't technically be in this country. Secondly the when immigration reform is being implemented, it should only be granted to people with high school/college degrees who have been here since the age of 13 and down. I don't believe people who came here in their late teenage years are adequately Americanized. Finally citizenship should be granted to no more than five million illegals. We don't wish to see the demographic of the population change too radically because its a new change, and I generally dislike major change.
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04-28-2011, 02:02 AM
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Here are my honest views, probably shared by most Americans, on the topic of immigration. No offense intended.


Firstly the President should focus first on fixing the economy and advancing the public healthcare agenda before he acts on immigration. Existing citizens care about these pieces of legislation more so than legalizing people who shouldn't technically be in this country. Secondly the when immigration reform is being implemented, it should only be granted to people with high school/college degrees who have been here since the age of 13 and down. I don't believe people who came here in their late teenage years are adequately Americanized. Finally citizenship should be granted to no more than five million illegals. We don't wish to see the demographic of the population change too radically because its a new change, and I generally dislike major change.
Your typical tea party white power republican...
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04-28-2011, 02:15 AM
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The demographic of the population is already changing at a rapid pace and legalizing no more than five million illegals is not going to change that (or rather stop that.)

I suppose we can't ask U.S. citizens to put our needs before theirs. This is imperative for us though. We are putting our lives on hold just to see whether we will be able to live and work legally in what we have come to know as our country. We are Americans without the fortune of being born here. We can contribute to the economy because once we start working we will be able to spend money. I can assure you, we will probably be paying a hefty fee that can be allocated to help other government ventures. We have potential to bring so much to the United States. Most of us are good people; we work hard, we abide the laws, and we appreciate the opportunities that we have under the U.S.-banner.

You can't ask us to stay in limbo forever. We can't wait until Democrats and Republicans end their bickering and pass laws that will finally allow them to focus on us. Our future looks grim because of that. We just need the American people to take a chance on us.
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04-28-2011, 02:34 AM
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Here are my honest views, probably shared by most Americans, on the topic of immigration. No offense intended.


Firstly the President should focus first on fixing the economy and advancing the public healthcare agenda before he acts on immigration. Existing citizens care about these pieces of legislation more so than legalizing people who shouldn't technically be in this country. Secondly the when immigration reform is being implemented, it should only be granted to people with high school/college degrees who have been here since the age of 13 and down. I don't believe people who came here in their late teenage years are adequately Americanized. Finally citizenship should be granted to no more than five million illegals. We don't wish to see the demographic of the population change too radically because its a new change, and I generally dislike major change.
You are giving arbitrary numbers. What makes one more "adequately American" than others? Having lived in the United States at least since the age of 13? Being able to speak and write English fluently? How about those who came to the country at the age of 14? 16? How about those who came to the country later in their 20's but have lived in the country for 40 years? Are they less American than you? Also, why is it five million? Why is it not one million or ten million? These are VERY arbitrary numbers. The demographics of the United States will not change even if one or ten million people are legalized because they already live in the country. Legalizing people might require some changes in some government systems, but you are quite wrong if you believe that the legalization process would suddenly change the demographics.
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04-28-2011, 03:12 AM
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Why do you dislike major change so much? Of all countries hasn't America set the standard for major changes? Look at the Civil Right's Act and Women's suffrage, are they not perfect examples of how major change made the country a better one? Look at the First Amendment and the freedom's that America created. Would allowing lots of hard working people the chance to add to this great nation be such a terrible thing? Did you even consider that allowing these people to join in might be an aid to the economy? Look at the big picture and please read some of the posts on this forum. Everyone wants a better world so what sense does it make to not allow some people to help make that goal a reality?
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04-28-2011, 03:56 AM
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Here are my honest views, probably shared by most Americans, on the topic of immigration. No offense intended.


Firstly the President should focus first on fixing the economy and advancing the public healthcare agenda before he acts on immigration. Existing citizens care about these pieces of legislation more so than legalizing people who shouldn't technically be in this country. Secondly the when immigration reform is being implemented, it should only be granted to people with high school/college degrees who have been here since the age of 13 and down. I don't believe people who came here in their late teenage years are adequately Americanized. Finally citizenship should be granted to no more than five million illegals. We don't wish to see the demographic of the population change too radically because its a new change, and I generally dislike major change.
Get this right wing shit out of here and some mods in here. Troll is a troll guys, hes just as ignorant as the people that do not want DA/CIR to pass.
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04-28-2011, 04:18 AM
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Cool story, brah.
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04-28-2011, 04:22 AM
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I guess he was too bored to post something in here. Since he is talking about economy, he must be unemployed as well.
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04-28-2011, 07:16 PM
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Here are my honest views, probably shared by most Americans, on the topic of immigration. No offense intended.


Firstly the President should focus first on fixing the economy and advancing the public healthcare agenda before he acts on immigration. Existing citizens care about these pieces of legislation more so than legalizing people who shouldn't technically be in this country. Secondly the when immigration reform is being implemented, it should only be granted to people with high school/college degrees who have been here since the age of 13 and down. I don't believe people who came here in their late teenage years are adequately Americanized. Finally citizenship should be granted to no more than five million illegals. We don't wish to see the demographic of the population change too radically because its a new change, and I generally dislike major change.
I came here when i was 14 and no one has EVER told me "you weren't born here." I told an Army recruiter I was illegal and he couldn't tell. Americanized? What a subjective title.
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04-28-2011, 07:55 PM
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Here are my honest views, probably shared by most Americans, on the topic of immigration. No offense intended.


Firstly the President should focus first on fixing the economy and advancing the public healthcare agenda before he acts on immigration. Existing citizens care about these pieces of legislation more so than legalizing people who shouldn't technically be in this country. Secondly the when immigration reform is being implemented, it should only be granted to people with high school/college degrees who have been here since the age of 13 and down. I don't believe people who came here in their late teenage years are adequately Americanized. Finally citizenship should be granted to no more than five million illegals. We don't wish to see the demographic of the population change too radically because its a new change, and I generally dislike major change.
Thanks for posting your views. This may be very hard to digest but the demographics of America are already changing and there is no way to stop this and frankly I don't know why you would want to stop it. What about those millions of other undocumented workers who are contributing to the economy? Immigration is a vital part of the economy. Hence it should be dealt with immediately.
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