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Obama to Latinos: Press GOP on immigration - Page 2

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President Barack Obama is urging Latino voters to spend less time pressing him to ease the enforcement of immigration laws and more time pressing Republican lawmakers to get behind immigration reform legislation.

"The problem right now is not on the Democratic side....Everybody for some reason is letting the Republican Party off the hook on this issue, either by hoping that I can take a unilateral action or that somehow Democrats can change the way Congress works," Obama said during a roundtable Monday with journalists for American Spanish-language newspapers. "The fact is, is if Latinos all across the country said, 'Until the Republican Party is willing to cooperate on bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform, we can’t support the Republican Party,” I promise you that’s something that would get the attention of the Republican Party."

"But that’s not where the energy is. So much time has been spent trying to see if we can do something administrative," Obama complained, according to*an account*by Antonieta Cadiz in*La Opinion.*"It’s as if people just give up on the idea of ever changing Republicans’ minds and, as a consequence, they don’t feel any pressure to try to do the right thing when it comes to immigration reform. That’s where the pressure needs to be applied."

During the discussion with Latino reporters, he was also asked about reports that, despite an Obama administration policy to focus deportation efforts on violent criminals, thousands of illegal immigrants have been deported due to traffic violations and drug offenses.

"One of the things that*[Immigration and Customs Enforcement]*has done is to provide more direction to its agents out on the field, in terms of what are the priorities; how are we focusing on the most serious criminals," Obama said. "That does not mean that that has all embedded itself at the operational level. So there may be still situations where there are resources being used, in terms of deporting somebody who had a DUI or had some other minor traffic violation. But overall, the direction that's being moved in is to say, look, you should prioritize."

Obama also said the administration is trying to limit the impact of immigration enforcement on families, but some of that is inevitable in the absence of legislation that would legalize some of the millions of*illegal immigrants in the U.S.

"We’re going to keep on trying to improve our administrative functions so that we’re minimizing the separation of families, so that people who are basically decent hardworking people don't get caught up in the system when we’re not focusing, when we haven’t done as good of a job as we need to, focusing on criminals who definitely need to be deported," Obama said. "But in the absence of Congress acting, there’s going to continue to be this tension and these problems."*

Here are links to*other Spanish-language*accounts of the president's roundtable, which did not appear on his public schedule but was featured briefly in a video the White House released Friday: El Nuevo Herald, Washington Hispanic*and El Tiempo Latino.
So, I assume Obama will not pressure Republicans to reach a compromise with Democrats on immigration if a congressional debate occurs on this issue in the following months. We should just do our best to overlook this news and hope that a mirarcle happens and congressional Democrats are able to reach some sort of compromise on immigration with Republicans.

On the Republican side, aren't Huntsman and, now to a lesser extent, Perry the only potential help we have? I pose this question because Obama seriously does not derserve the Latino vote after making these declarations. The Latino community has done everything it can to convince Republicans to fix the broken immigration system. The task of pressuring congress to reach a compromise on immigration now rests on Obama. Yet, he shocks us with these statements of annoyance/frustration. How disheartening.

Edit: Gingrich, I think, has a chaotic idea on how to handle the immigration issue. We complain about Obama being all about rhetoric. Gingrich looks like he is doing the same.
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as much as I agree w/some of the guy's policies; immigration sure isn't one of them
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as much as I agree w/some of the guy's policies; immigration sure isn't one of them
Still better than any of the other lunatics running on the GOP side.
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LATINO VOTE FOR CA GOVERNOR
Jerry Brown: 86%
Meg Whitman: 13%
Latino share of voters: 18%
Latino contribution to Brown: +13.1

LATINO VOTE FOR CA SENATE
Barbara Boxer: 86%
Carly Fiorina: 14%
Latino share of voters: 18%
Latino contribution to Boxer: +10.1

Source: Latino Decisions Nevada election eve poll. Poll was co-sponsored with the National Council of La Raza, SEIU, and America’s Voice.

Latinos Voters Saved Harry Reid in Nevada

LATINO VOTE FOR NV SENATE
Harry Reid: 90%
Sharron Angle: 8%
Latino share of voters: 12%.
Latino contribution to Reid: +9.8

LATINO VOTE FOR COLORADO SENATE
Michael Bennet: 81%
Ken Buck: 19%
Latino share of voters: 10%
Latino contribution to Bennett: +6.2

LATINO VOTE FOR COLORADO GOVERNOR
John Hickenlooper: 77%
Dan Maes: 9%
Tom Tancredo: 14%
Latino share of voters: 10%
Latino contribution to Hickenlooper: +6.3

ARIZONA
LATINO VOTE FOR GOVERNOR
Terry Goddard: 85%
Jan Brewer: 14%
Latino share of voters: 14%
Latino contribution to Goddard: +9.9

LATINO VOTE FOR SENATE
Rodney Glassman: 78%
John McCain: 22%
Latino share of voters: 14%
Latino contribution to Glassman: +7.8

TEXAS
LATINO VOTE FOR GOVERNOR
Bill White: 80%
Rick Perry: 19%
Latino share of voters: 24%
Latino contribution to White: +14.6


Obama need to stfu, read the 2010 election result and tell me Latinos let republicans
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If he loses, then it's game over for the rest of you guys.

If he wins, we still have a sliver of a chance that something immigrant friendly related will come our way.
If Democrats don't take back senate and house, it's all over for the immigrant movement for the next 4-6 years. It is very likely that Republicans will hold on to their house majority. Sad but true. Obama has no power at all when it comes to immigration. He is just a side guy. The power hitters are the likes of Reid, Durbin, Boehner, McConnel, Graham, Schumer etc. I would really advise you all to start considering back up plans of possibly moving back if you do have the option. Otherwise you can always get married if you've met the right person. Obama has proven to be one of the biggest scams the immigrant community has witnessed. But hats off to the guy for manipulating people for his advantage. 21st century politician at his best. DREAM 2012 YES WE CAN.
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If Democrats don't take back senate and house, it's all over for the immigrant movement for the next 4-6 years. It is very likely that Republicans will hold on to their house majority. Sad but true. Obama has no power at all when it comes to immigration. He is just a side guy. The power hitters are the likes of Reid, Durbin, Boehner, McConnel, Graham, Schumer etc. I would really advise you all to start considering back up plans of possibly moving back if you do have the option. Otherwise you can always get married if you've met the right person. Obama has proven to be one of the biggest scams the immigrant community has witnessed. But hats off to the guy for manipulating people for his advantage. 21st century politician at his best. DREAM 2012 YES WE CAN.
the senate curently is democrats 53 republicans 47
the democrats have a good chance of winning 4 states but losing the 3 in red as well


Arizona
Republican Jon Kyl, three terms Retiring
Arizona has voted solidly Republican in recent elections.
However, the growing Latino population and anger over Republican proposals to cut Medicare and Social Security could influence voting enough to elect a Democratic senator.


Massachusetts
Republican Scott Brown
•Massachusetts is a solidly Democratic state, one that in recent decades, has rarely elected Republicans to Congress.
Many liberals in Massachusetts deeply resent that Republican Sen. Brown won, in a special election, the seat held by the late Democratic stand-bearer Sen. Ted Kennedy for four decades. They seek to restore this Senate seat to a Democrat.


Montana
Democrat Jon Tester,
•With certain notable exceptions, Montana voters lean Republican more than Democratic.
•Montana voters supported Republican McCain over Democrat Obama in the 2008 presidential race. President Obama is not popular in the Big Sky Country state.


Nebraska
Democrat Ben Nelson
Tea Party Republicans have targeted Sen. Ben Nelson for defeat in 2012, exhorting "Nelson traded his principles, our freedoms and liberties, and the quality of our nation's healthcare system–all for $100 million for Nebraska. Nelson is a Democrat elected in a conservative 'Red State' and he seemed to think he could buy off votes for his re-election."

Nevada
Republican Dean Heller. Appointed in May 2011 to replace retiring Sen. John Ensign
•Nevada is a classic red/blue bipartisan state, with staunch conservative libertarian and liberal labor union factions.
• Sen. Harry Reid, Senate Majority Leader, hails from Nevada, and has considerable influence with a large segment of voters, particularly Hispanics who comprise 26.5% of all Nevadans.


North Dakota
Democrat Kent Conrad
North Dakota has voted solidly Republican in recent elections. Also, President Obama is not popular in North Dakota, presently one of the nation's most prosperous states.
With the retirement of Democratic incumbent Sen. Conrad in 2012, pundits expect Democrats won't again be elected to Congress from North Dakota for many years.



Texas
Republican Kay Hutchinson, three terms Retiring
red-state Texas has voted solidly Republican for several decades.
However, the growing Latino population and revulsion at social and educational engineering by conservative Christians could influence voting enough to elect a Democratic senator.


AND my personal prediction is the GOP keeps the house but lose alot of those crazy tea bag members because of the whole proposals to cut Medicare and Social Security and holding the debt ceiling hostage thing
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F... You obama!!! You are the worst damn president. You lie!! I wish you lose next elections!!!
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THIS.

Bring on the GOP in 2012. I don't give a fuck. Sarah Palin can call ICE, the police, her momma and her mommas daddy but I ain't going nowhere cept up and down her face with my legs and fist. And if she likes what she sees then we can take it to the bedroom.
Yes, he lied. So because you think he's a horrible president, and because he lied, you wish that there won't be any dream act for the next 4 years and possibly 8 years? I'm not saying Obama is the greatest president ever and it would be a lie to say that I wasn't heartbroken that dream act is not within our grasp as of right now. I think it's time to be hopeful and although I don't want to sound like DA user, but I really do believe something will get passed in the next 2-3 years. Yes, I might get flamed on. But at least I'm hopeful.
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I get sick of this strategy. Obama is supposed to be the leader of the country, so why is he always appealing to others to do his job. If the GOP is obstructionist, he could help by opposing them in some way instead of always asking other to do it for him. This is the same failed strategy he employed in the debt limit debate. He is a terrible excuse for a leader.
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