I need serious answers please - Page 2

May I ask how you came to this conclusion?

They should strip the military component off the DA and vote for the education part only. Let's see how many votes it garners. The military component is the only enticing option FOR the American public to support this dead legislation, without it it'll just basically be a handout ( Whether you elitist maniacs like it or not ) We went to college to improve ourselves get a high paying job, NOT to solely help the American people (Biggest BS).

The ARMS Act may be a bad written bill but it's a start. A Military stand alone DA ( Durbin's Specs) would probably pass without much opposition.

I don't think anyone can say but from what I can see any attempt seems to be made during the second term of an incumbent President.The Congressional make up of Congress,political posturing and public demands shall obviously shape any policy made during that time period.

The real question is will there be enough will to get something done that includes a legalization pathway that includes that individual ? or will one have to rely on current law at the time for the duration they're willing to be undocumented ?

I agree.

The make up of Congress is what concerns me. Midterms have not proven to be our friends. If the Democrats pick up or retain enough seats this election cycle, then, IMO, our best shot at immigration reform may be any time before 2014.

But, as for there being a will to get something done that also includes a path to legalization, that really is going to depend on consistent improvement with the economy. As long as Americans feel unstable, we'll continue to be seen as competition for what scarce resources are available (i.e. JOBS).

We need to re-frame the argument for immigration reform in terms of economics. All we hear about is how much of a drain we are on services that we can't even get, etc. Americans only want to know how our legalization will benefit them. Serious emphasis needs to be placed on what our financial contributions to the U.S. will be in the short term, as well as the long term.

I think the Arms act would pass, but Ironically i think the democrats and the immigrant groups would kill it, saying it isn't enough. The Dream Act won't pass before 2015 at the earliest, because of the fact 2/3 of the people up for election in the senate this year will be democrats defending their own seats.

Because of that, there is the very likely possibility of winning the presidency, gaining seats in the house, but losing seats in the Senate.

7 years is getting way ahead of ourselves, and the answer to this question is not that complicated. What I have come to understand over the years is that as long as republicans control the House of Representatives there will be no DREAM Act simply as that. It's doesn't matter who the president is.

I definately agree with you. Also, I just hope the Dems smart up and attach some heavy border security or something to stop illegal immigration along with this bill. Then finally, it will pass pretty easily [i hope], since the Repubs want the border secured first before passing a bill like this.

No. The Dream Act could've passed the last time but the senators who once supported it stopped voting for it. We were 5 votes short. I think 4 of them (snowe, hatch, lugar, some other guy) used to be co-sponsors and scott brown could've voted for it if he really wanted to.

Not to mention that there were some moderate democrats who withheld their vote. After thinking about the moderate dems and republicans holding back on the last vote, I KNEW that Dream is never going to pass and you're just wasting away.

The way I see it... The Democratic party can never count on 100% party support for Dream. We need all the moderate dems and republicans to vote for it, but when they know that it can pass, they will give us another bullshit reason for why they didn't vote for it.

Nothing will happen because it's already been over 10 years. Stop waiting and go back, like I did. Life is so much better as a legal citizen.

It won't. Opponents who vote against it will say it's a matter of national security and that undocumented immigrants will endanger it. The opponents are wrong, of course, but that won't change a thing. If I had stayed and ARMS had passed, I'd happily enlist and spend a few years in the military for a green card. There was a time where I thought I could die for America, but that time has passed and it's time to move forward.

if i say yes will that make you feel better?

Dude,

You need to calm down. I am sensing some hardcore stress. Talk to us dude. What are you feeling?