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Possible catch-22 problem?

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06-20-2012, 05:51 PM
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So I think this might be a problem for DREAMers who do not have any valid government ID.

A lot of countries do not accept application for passport unless you can prove that you are living in the U.S. legally. So a lot of DREAMers don't have any form of ID, not even a passport from their country of origin.

This will cause problem because when you apply for an EAD, you will need to provide a valid ID before they let you take the biometrics.

For a lot of DREAMers, an EAD is the only way to get a valid ID. But to get an EAD, you will need a valid government ID...

Anyone see a way to resolve this?
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06-20-2012, 05:55 PM
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So u r saying u have no ID whatsoever? What country u from? Most (counsuls) will give u a passport here in the US
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06-20-2012, 06:05 PM
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I have actually been trying to brainstorm how some may get over this problem and have come to only 3 conclusions thus far.

1.Try gaining National ID from your country of origin.

2.Use your last expired passport and try to get a copy of the passport regulations from your Home country which highlight why you can't currently renew it.

3.Asking for an Emergency passport.I'm pretty sure the requirements would be pretty much different in trying to gain such a document if possible but the Dreamer in question should research their own countries rules BEFORE attempting this obviously!!!

It is very likely the Deferred action process AND The biometrics portion of the EAD will require a form of government ID.
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06-20-2012, 06:06 PM
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ok. I'm from one such country. I have family members who were able to change their status through marriage. I think what's going to happen is:
-you'll received your deportation relief and a piece of paper from USCIS saying basically that you're no in this country illegally, valid up until an expiration date
-you'll take that to your consulate and use it to renew your passport
-you'll use your passport to get work authorization

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that when you change status through marriage, you received that same piece of paper (stating you're not illegal, even though you're also not really legal). and then you have to go through the same process.
If there was no way of doing this, nobody would be able to adjust their status. Even the dream act wouldn't help you.
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06-20-2012, 06:59 PM
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2.Use your last expired passport and try to get a copy of the passport regulations from your Home country which highlight why you can't currently renew it.
Maybe it is even possible for the Consulate to issue a letter saying that you meet all the requirements (ie: you are who you say you are), but they can't issue you a passport until you have legal presence.
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i just recently renewed my passport from Colombia and went to apply for a cedula de ciudadania, but the cedula takes a couple of months so i will have to apply with a passport.
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So u r saying u have no ID whatsoever? What country u from? Most (counsuls) will give u a passport here in the US
They all do. The only reason that someone doesn't have a passport is that they lost it and doesn't have their birth certificate.
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They all do. The only reason that someone doesn't have a passport is that they lost it and doesn't have their birth certificate.
Uh... not for Vietnam. They are asking me to provide legal presence documents and are asking me to provide every details about my life before they even look at my application.

And I don't have any kind of National ID because I needed to be physically present in Vietnam and provide them with my "Household Registration Book"

Plus, I fear that if I go back to Vietnam, the communist government will put me in jail because I failed to get the ID when I turned 18.
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We have sent some clients to get their biometrics with either 2 expired ID's from their native contry and sometimes if they came in as a child we send them with expired passport and current school ID and they have been able to get the biometrics done.
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I only have my college ID and matricula consular ID. I could get a Mexican passport but it takes months and costs a lot of money. And how can they ask us for an ID if we are not able to get one to obtain an EAD. Are you talking about an ID that is from our country?
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