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Mmmmm interesting. Thanks a lot. I'll go ahead and research it. I do my own taxes so ill have to look into it. Thanks man.
no problem dude. I hope you get some $ refunded too.
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That's good. Well good luck. I hope you find something soon , so you make some dinero. It sucks to be broke.
Thanks, good luck to you too...
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Social Security is Changing the Way SSNs are Issued
Were you aware that the first three digits of the Social Security Number (SSN) had a geographical significance? Since the inception of SSNs, the first three digits were determined by the Zip Code of the mailing address shown on the application for an SSN -- but this is slated to change in 2011. In an effort to increase the number of SSNs available for use by the Social Security Administration (SSA) and in order to help reduce identity theft, SSA plans to change the methodology by which SSNs are issued. In June 2011, SSA will begin to issue SSNs randomly, regardless of the address on the application. As a result, SSA will have the ability to continue to issue SSNs in all areas of the country for many more years without having to make additional changes.
Your computer systems or information technology staff may need to revise their programs to account for these changes.
What will change?
Anticipated implementation date is June 2011.
SSA will no longer issue SSNs based on geography.
SSA will issue SSNs with the number “8” in position 1.
SSA will include all possible SSNs with the number “7” in position 1. Currently, SSNs that start with “7” are for certain states and other specific groups.
Effective June 2011, SSA will no longer update the High Group List. SSA offers verification services that are more accurate than using the High Group List.

What will not change?
SSA will not issue SSNs beginning with the number “9”.
SSA will not issue SSNs beginning with the number “666” in positions 1 – 3.
SSA will not issue SSNs beginning with the number “000” in positions 1 – 3.
SSA will not issue SSNs with the number “00” in positions 4 – 5.
SSA will not issue SSNs with the number “0000” in positions 6 – 9.


What is Social Security Number (SSN) Randomization?
The project is a forward looking initiative of the Social Security Administration (SSA) to help protect the integrity of the SSN by establishing a new randomized assignment methodology. SSN Randomization will also extend the longevity of the nine-digit SSN nationwide.
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When will SSN randomization take effect?
The SSA implemented the new assignment methodology on June 25, 2011.
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Why is the SSA changing the way it assigns the SSN?
The SSA believes that randomly assigning the SSN will help protect the integrity of the SSN. Changing assignment methodology will also extend the available pool of nine digit SSNs in every state.
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Will the SSA ever run out of SSNs?
The nine-digit SSN will eventually be exhausted. The previous SSN assignment process limited the number of SSNs that were available for assignment to individuals in each state. Randomization affords the SSA the opportunity to extend the number of SSNs available for assignment for many years.
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How will SSN randomization provide enhanced protection to my identity?
As the SSN is increasingly used by public and private entities in conjunction with other tools and processes for identity verification, instances of SSN fraud, misuse, and identity theft are also on the rise. SSN randomization will help protect an individual's SSN by making it more difficult to reconstruct an SSN using public information.
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What changes resulted from randomization?
The SSA eliminated the geographical significance of the first three digits of the SSN, referred to as the area number, by no longer allocating the area numbers for assignment to individuals in specific states. The significance of the highest group number (the fourth and fifth digits of the SSN) for validation purposes was eliminated. Randomization also introduced previously unassigned area numbers for assignment excluding area numbers 000, 666 and 900-999.
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Will SSN randomization assign group number (the fourth and fifth digits of the SSN) 00 or serial number (the last four digits of the SSN) 0000?
SSN randomization will not assign group number 00 or serial number 0000. SSNs containing group number 00 or serial number 0000 will continue to be invalid.
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Did the SSN length change as a result of randomization?
The length of the SSN did not change. The SSN is still comprised of nine numeric digits.
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Will current number holders receive a new SSN and card?
Current number holders will not receive a new SSN or a new card as a result of randomization. The new assignment process only applies to those receiving an SSN for the first time.
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Will I be able to request a new randomized SSN?
Generally, we assign only one SSN to an individual. We use that number to record the individual's earnings so that we can determine future benefits and, eventually, to track benefits paid. Only under the following circumstances can we assign a different number:
Sequential numbers assigned to members of the same family are causing problems;
More than one person is using the same number;
An individual has religious or cultural objections to certain numbers or digits in the original number;
(See "Can I request a new SSN because I object to digits used?")
A victim of identity theft continues to be disadvantaged by using the original number;
(See Identity Theft And Your Social Security Number, Publication No. 05-10064.) or
Situations of harassment, abuse or life endangerment (including domestic violence).
(See New Numbers For Domestic Violence Victims, Publication No. 05-10093.)

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Will previously issued SSNs be re-assigned as a result of randomization?
The SSA will not reassign SSNs. Randomization will provide us with enough new numbers to avoid reassignment.
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How did SSN randomization affect the geographical significance of the area number?
Randomization eliminated the geographical significance of the area number (the first three digits of the SSN). Area numbers are no longer allocated to states for assignment.
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How will I verify a name and SSN?
The SSA will still provide opportunities for direct SSN verification. Internet based verification services include:
The SSA's Social Security Number Verification Service – available to employers.
The Department of Homeland Security’s eVerify Service – available to employers to determine employment eligibility.
The SSA's Consent-Based SSN Verification Service – available to enrolled private companies and government agencies for a fee.
Federal and State Agencies will continue to have several SSN verification systems available to them such as those outlined on http://www.ssa.gov/gix/eprojects.html. These methods for SSN verification are much more accurate than using the High Group List. For more information on those services, please contact us at ssn.randomization@ssa.gov for referral to the appropriate SSA contact.
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Is the High Group List still available for validation?
There are no plans to update the High Group List. The High Group List is frozen in time and can only be used to see the area and group numbers SSA issued prior to the randomization implementation date.
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Who can I contact if I have any questions/comments pertaining to SSN randomization?
Please email any questions/comments to ssn.randomization@ssa.gov.

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I went to the SSA office today and they adjusted my earnings from the past 7 years to the new social. You only need all your W-2s, your EAD, and SSN card. No questions asked. My new # starts with 4. Also, I amended the last 2 years of my tax returns and I'm supposed to be getting $800 refunded =)
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I think the question was for me, not sure since you didn't quote me. I went to the SSA office in Moreno Valley, CA.
It was sorry lol thanks!
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How long after applying for your ssn can you obtain the printout with the number?
I went yesterday to the ss office and I wonder if they will have it tomorrow?
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How long after applying for your ssn can you obtain the printout with the number?
I went yesterday to the ss office and I wonder if they will have it tomorrow?
Yeah, you can probably already get the print out. I believe its usually 48 hours after applying. Give them a call to see if your number was already generated.
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So I called my location today and found out my app. was still pending but found out another tidbit of information, that the Initial Verification was sent out Oct. 5, which was 7 days from the date my EAD was issued and then never after that. So I brought up the POMS that I found on this forum a couple of weeks ago (https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110213305) and reminded her that another IV could have been send Oct. 9th but wasn't, and that may be why my app has been waiting for some time. She said she'd let the person who handles "that type of workload" know about my application and ask him to follow up on it.

So just to be sure, I did interpret the procedure correctly, right? And should I go in tomorrow with the POMS printed out and ask that they do another IV in front of me, hope that they're "following up on it," or just wait and be patient because my SSN might come soon anyways. There's pros and cons to each, but I have a DMV appointment on Friday and I'd really like to have my SSN by then rather than canceling my appointment.
Well in essence you are right.
What you need to find out what was the Response from SAVE with the IV, 'Suspect' most likely. Suspect = No favorable response/Not Found/WTF.
After this they look at your app again and send a AV, Additional Verification, this is essentially another IV+Checks more databases, if the response from that you go to the G- form, PAPER
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It was something called "making work pay credit" my tax preparer did it for me. You can only amend the last 3 years.
Awesome...... extra 400 in credits................

I searched for the restrictions.....

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Making-Work-P...General-Issues

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Q5. Are employees required to have a valid Social Security number (SSN) to be eligible for the Making Work Pay tax credit?
A. Yes, eligibility for this credit is conditioned upon providing a valid SSN.


No mention of USC or LPR... Money here I come.
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Well in essence you are right.
What you need to find out what was the Response from SAVE with the IV, 'Suspect' most likely. Suspect = No favorable response/Not Found/WTF.
After this they look at your app again and send a AV, Additional Verification, this is essentially another IV+Checks more databases, if the response from that you go to the G- form, PAPER
I was told that the only IV ever sent was Oct. 5, which was when I applied at their office. So is it possible that it came up as suspect back then? They haven't even bothered to send another IV since then; she said "We're still waiting on a response from DHS from the Oct. 5 IV."

I'm scared to go in but I'll feel like I didn't try enough if I don't go. I just hope it turns out well.. There's quite a few things on my life on hold right now and it sucks that the SSA has already taken longer than USCIS did to approve my case..
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Day 27! wooooohh.
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