But do all immigrants deserve the amnesty? - Page 4
I haven't read all the posts in this thread but I just have to say something that might have already been said....
Learning to speak English is not the same for every single person. My father is a bright man, he worked in our country as a head of a bank department and had many people answer to him. He had a ton of responsibility and never missed a deadline. He is a book worm, constantly reading, keeping up with the news. He is a smart man. That said, English just kills him. He has taken classes at local schools, done online courses, etc and he just can't get the hang of it. I can't blame him cause I see him trying, I see how discouraged he gets when he still doesn't understand. He's still as clueless as he was back when we got here in 2000.
He is a green card holder so I guess this immigration reform thing has nothing to do with him but I can't help but feel bad for all the immigrants like him that try and try and try and just can't figure out the English language.
Learning to speak English is not the same for every single person. My father is a bright man, he worked in our country as a head of a bank department and had many people answer to him. He had a ton of responsibility and never missed a deadline. He is a book worm, constantly reading, keeping up with the news. He is a smart man. That said, English just kills him. He has taken classes at local schools, done online courses, etc and he just can't get the hang of it. I can't blame him cause I see him trying, I see how discouraged he gets when he still doesn't understand. He's still as clueless as he was back when we got here in 2000.
He is a green card holder so I guess this immigration reform thing has nothing to do with him but I can't help but feel bad for all the immigrants like him that try and try and try and just can't figure out the English language.
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Originally Posted by Kari096
OP is ignorant. You know what's the difference between a visa overstay and a person who crossed the border illegally? Not a damn thing because both parties made a conscious decision to break U.S. immigration law. I'm tired of visa overstays being put in a separate catergory simply because they learned to work the system. Did the cross the border illegally? No, but did they know their visa was expiring and decided not to return home? And for that they should be treated with preferential treatment? I don't think so. And although I don't receive welfare and don't agree with a lot of its practices I find it highly offensive for welfare to even be a part of the calculus is barring someone from obtaining citizenship or residency. Those are benefits available to USC children, is it constitutional to bar one class of citizens from receiving benefits (that God forbidden they may actually need) because their parents cannot find employment due to their citizenship status? And for welfare to even be a deterrent of CIR is discriminatory. It assumes that all immigrants want residency to become public liabilities.
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I mostly agree with what you have, the thing that to this day bothers me is that immigrants are usually low-income, yet i do not understand why would they have children if they cannot afford them. To raise a child up to the age of 18, costs the parents $200,000!! Now what if they have 4 or more children, how can they afford that especially if the parents are not here legally?
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Originally Posted by Allthatnmore
Haha. OP came legally but overstayed his visa.
you are just as "illegal" as all "illegals". |
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Originally Posted by natalie2288
well to be able to obtain a green card, whoever is going to sponsor you has prove they can sustain you. In other words before you can obtain your green card, you have to prove that you will NOT become a public liability.
I mostly agree with what you have, the thing that to this day bothers me is that immigrants are usually low-income, yet i do not understand why would they have children if they cannot afford them. To raise a child up to the age of 18, costs the parents $200,000!! Now what if they have 4 or more children, how can they afford that especially if the parents are not here legally? |
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Originally Posted by JJ Glo
Wrong. There is a difference between Visa overstayed and illegal entry. Take for example when someone tries to adjust their status through marriage, up until the new waiver, people who entered illegally would have to leave the country in order to adjust, and when they left, they triggered a ban from the country. Visa overstays didn't have that problem. They just paid a fee and were able to adjust Immediately. Yes we're still here illegally, but for the sake of immigration, we're different.
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Originally Posted by GENEVIEVE
I'm an immigrant, came to this country legally but stay past my visa.
I learned English, worked and paid taxes. I don't have a crimial record here nor back in my country. My question is: do all the illegal immigrants deserve a green card? Are they going to do something positive with it? Will they give back to the country?Or will they became leeches and get into welfare as soon as they can? I have met many immigrants who have been here for 20 years (I have been here for less than  who cannot speak ANYTHING in English. I find it offensive. Back i my country, I hated when tourists didn't speak my language and I find it wrong that someone lives here for years and doesn't bother to learn English.I think they should give priority to the immigrants who learned English. I think they are right in charging us a fine, but I doubt they will have luck with charging people back taxes; most people probably don't even remember their incomes of 2-5 years ago, imagine 10+ years ago! I think they should create a rule that forbids people to get into welfare or file for bankruptcy within 5 years from getting the amnesty. And I think they shouldn't allow people to give green cards to their family members; that way people won't start bringing all their relatives to this country (maybe only the ones from war-torn countries should be ok). I know I probably upset a lot of people reading this, but I am thinking about this country and I am afraid many immigrants will get into welfare, bring more people to be on welfare and the country will just be like the ones many people ran from. Opinions? |
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