But do all immigrants deserve the amnesty? - Page 10

Originally Posted by Eddy117

I've been here since I was 4, currently just turned 25. In my eyes, people like you, who came at an age of over 18, who made a conscious decision to not follow the rules and leave when your visa expired, should not get a single bit of help through anything and deserve to go through the crap that everyone else has to go through to get your so-called 'amnesty'.

In regards to english, make it a requirement for everyone to speak it, don't just single out people like my mom who bust her ass all damn day and is too physically tired to even try going to go to some ESL class .

Originally Posted by Eddy117

I would also love to add that you need to better your English speaking/writing skills or pick up a dictionary because you obviously don't know the definition of 'Amnesty'. Amnesty denotes forgiveness for past transgressions and in immigration terms, unconditional residence/citizenship. What has been talked about by the group of 8 senators is a long process in which people would have to wait years for the current backlog of applicants, those who were petitioned by USC's or LPR's and those who fall under work petitions etc. before even granting them a conditional green card. Add to that, back taxes, fines, and the requirements to go through various background checks and learning English and American civics, the whole process will take a decade...hell of an 'amnesty' huh?

So to sum it up; A green card will not be issued to anyone unless there's tough border security enacted, applicants have to pass background checks, have to pay back taxes, have to pay fines, have to learn English and learn about American civics.

Also, how can you put yourself up on a pedestal as a model immigrant yet you would not get your Citizenship? You sound like an anti-immigrant immigrant French friend I have who refuses to get his Citizenship as this country in his words, "is not [his] country because it sucks."

Originally Posted by mayito

From my own point of view it doesn't affect you at all. You need to stop worrying about others, worry about yourself. If they decide to grant all 11 million LPR or Citizenship it won't affect you at all. Be grateful that you're already ahead of those that don't know the language. But don't come in here handing out tickets acting like Mr Obama and choosing who deserves green cards.

Originally Posted by dreamofgold

Originally Posted by cardozo

I haven't read all of the posts but I'm just going to respond to the first post aka the thread topic.

I was brought up here when I was 9 years old I am now 23 and it sure as hell has been a struggle growing up being illegal as WE ALL know, so if this passes I would be so grateful as WE all should be.

My problem with your opinion is how selfish you sound ,to be honest, because we are all illegal no matter if you're rich,poor,educated or not, you get the point. If all of us who are illegal were actually united and not have selfish ideas like yours who knows we could of had raise even a bigger voice these past years and we could of had been legal by now, but no there's always going to be these people who think they deserve it more than others. Personally it doesn't matter to me if they earned it or not as long as they ain't criminals they should have a chance to feel 'free' in this land just like every other legal citizen of this country.