McCain: Migrant-reform deal eluding 'Gang of Eight' - Page 3

Originally Posted by TexasDreamy

Even if he is serious, it'd be a fantastically expensive venture to create a minefield 3000 miles wide. Furthermore, minefields are only useful in preventing rapid mass crossings (ie: an entire battalion crossing into your territory under cover of darkness). Anyone with a stick can slowly poke in front of them and discover mines without setting them off. Another solution is modifying a tractor to detonate mines (ie: http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/fl...rael-1950s.jpg)

You'd need constant supervision on the border to make a minefield useful. Your billion dollar minefield would be defeated with a coyote leading a few goats on a leash in front of him :P

Oh, and the lawsuits when a US citizen steps on a mine would drive the cost up like crazy.

Originally Posted by NK74

It's flabbergasting to me that people who they or their family came to this country in order to seek work and find a better life are clamoring to stop other people to do the same as soon as they sense they are about to get their take.

It's as if they are essentially saying "don't treat us like we want to treat the ones who want to come after us on our footsteps".

It's a very selfish view of the world and it lacks the empathy that you are asking from others to give to your plight.

Never mind that most likely it's bad economics predicated on wrong Malthusian understanding of the world. In a market economy, jobs aren't finite. A job creates its own demand.

What separates the US economy from let's say the Guatemalan economy is that the US economy has a better set of institutions which in turn allows respect of property rights, makes contracts enforceable and allows entrepreneurship to thrive. The same Guatemalan who can't make it in Guatamela because of corruption, fear of getting robbed and job killing regulations can make a living in the US. Conversely, if the whole world could magically adopt and enforce US rules and regulations in their economy, it would thrive dramatically. Alas, that's impossible.

I think that the best arguments against illegal migration are cultural not economic.

But like I said, if you are against more illegal immigration -for the people after you, not yourself- at least don't be a jerk.

Originally Posted by Sonawabich

Good luck trying to cross the desert in time by poking every inch of your way.

And good luck trying to persuade the border crossers to buy/rent your anti-mine tank.

When a mine blows up it can be detected and agents dispatched to the location to replace the blown mine with new one.

If a US citizen gets blown up, he/she shouldn't have been crossing illegally

Originally Posted by dreamer-michigan

Seriously who cares about future flow or guest worker things. The most important thing I want and need is green cards for dreamers within a year or two. And travel permission for all other undocumented. If I don't get financial aid soon ill have to drop out of college

Originally Posted by Sonawabich

You posted two more posts since you were gonna stop posting in this thread.

Originally Posted by Happyman0607

There's no CIR without an effective method to prevent the future flow of immigrants.. Or else it'll be like the failed 1986 amnesty..


Take some reading comprehension classes along with the economics classes.. I said it would be my last reply regards to this topic (topic being that we need a guest worker program) I'm simply admiring your innovative revolutionary thought process

Originally Posted by Sonawabich

Then why are you talking off topic subjects in a thread that is title under a specific topic