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05-18-2013, 02:47 AM
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The most correct form is "unauthorized migrant". Undocumented implies you have no identity. Immigrant implies authorization.


Yeah is why DACA is confusing to some people. We don't have a lawful status but a lawful presence but the keyboard here is deferred.
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I think Obama will pass CIR in one form or another. He doesn't want to be famous for giving half a million kids false dreams. If he leaves us for the Republicans that is bad news, however will a new President really want to deport half a million kids in his first term. That will have to be a key question in four years time during the election debates if we are still locked in DACA. Immigration could be an election looser again for the Republicans if they ignore it.
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I think Obama will pass CIR in one form or another. He doesn't want to be famous for giving half a million kids false dreams. If he leaves us for the Republicans that is bad news, however will a new President really want to deport half a million kids in his first term. That will have to be a key question in four years time during the election debates if we are still locked in DACA. Immigration could be an election looser again for the Republicans if they ignore it.
It's not up to Obama. He's done virtually all he could thus far. Generally speaking, all (save a few southern Democrats) are yes's on immigration. There's a division emerging among the GOP which separates the extreme right (tea partiers, 'patriots', etc) from the more moderate "RINOs" (I myself would identify as a moderate Republican).

Center GOP is pro immigration, extreme right isn't.

Issue at hand is that the extreme right holds, somehow, a powerful hand. I personally think their power has peaked and that more and more of the GOP will steer toward the center, but for the time being they hold a few key seats and are incredibly stubborn. This isn't so much as an anti-immigration stance as it is an anti-Obama stance. Believe me, if Obama was anti-immigration, CIR would have breezed by the House without issue. These far right wingers will do anything to not give Obama a victory.
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if you want to get all Politically correct and what not, then yeah..


otherwise: Illegal.

we did stay here illegally, breaking the law implies that.
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I think Obama will pass CIR in one form or another. He doesn't want to be famous for giving half a million kids false dreams. If he leaves us for the Republicans that is bad news, however will a new President really want to deport half a million kids in his first term. That will have to be a key question in four years time during the election debates if we are still locked in DACA. Immigration could be an election looser again for the Republicans if they ignore it.
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In those 2 years you can work legally because you are deferred from deportation. Theoretically speaking here, if a CIR was did not pass ever, you could just keep on renewing and renewing it.

I wonder what happens to people who will pass the DACA eligible cutoff age of 30 in two years. Will they be eligible for an EAD renewal? Anyone have a clue?
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Has it really been 9 months for you?
9 more days & it will!
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I wonder what happens to people who will pass the DACA eligible cutoff age of 30 in two years. Will they be eligible for an EAD renewal? Anyone have a clue?
  • Were under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012;

The language allows for some interpretation and it will without doubt be challenged. I would interpret this as those who qualified are to be grandfathered in until the termination of the program.
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The for sure thing is, whoever supported a CIR bill that allows dreamers to become citizens, will get their support. As of this moment (and with USCIS last report), there are about 291k approved people for DACA...which doesn't mean much, but if in 5 years they become citizens and vote, could mean a lot for the candidates that did or didn't support CIR.

I would think that DACA beneficiaries would be allowed for citizenship, the rest won't, since there is less to blame for us 'younger migrants' than the older ones.
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