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Dems vow hard line in immigration reform’s next phase - Page 2

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My predictions are this month for CIR to pass.
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My predictions are this month for CIR to pass.
LOL that is what we all wish.
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You are absolutely wrong. Those Democrats are just cleverly fooling you around.

They vote for CIR because they simply want to shift blames to the Republicans.

They vote for CIR not because they want the CIR to pass.

All previous CIR efforts were passed by the Republicans in at least one of the two chambers!! When the Democrats controlled both chambers a couple of years ago, they did absolutely nothing about CIR

Wake up! We should request the Democrats STOP ruin the CIR efforts this time!!
Holy revisionist history.

Obama and the DEMs took precedent over the broken health care system over the needs of the undocumented immigrants in this country. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, considering that was his number 1 priority besides ending the war and the economy. You're naive if you think he should've spent his valuable political capital on CIR when healthcare is what he ran his platform on. And even then, Republicans tried to stop it at all costs during the initial crafting of the bill. There is no reason to suggest that the GOP wouldn't have done so with Immigration. Stop with this wake up BS, that is disingenuous and pedantic.
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LOL that is what we all wish.
I don't wish. I predict.
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I don't wish. I predict.
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the border will never be secured because drugs NEED to get over here. Guess who's not going to be part of the 90% apprehension rate. They will keep the good ppl out but keep the criminals in the states. This is why they will never build a wall or anything close to it. Border security is all a lie and will never happen no matter how many measures are taken and republicans know this.
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Holy revisionist history.

Obama and the DEMs took precedent over the broken health care system over the needs of the undocumented immigrants in this country. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, considering that was his number 1 priority besides ending the war and the economy. You're naive if you think he should've spent his valuable political capital on CIR when healthcare is what he ran his platform on. And even then, Republicans tried to stop it at all costs during the initial crafting of the bill. There is no reason to suggest that the GOP wouldn't have done so with Immigration. Stop with this wake up BS, that is disingenuous and pedantic.
Democrats had majority in BOTH chambers for FOUR consecutive years:

110th Congress: Democrats had majority in House and Senate from 2007 to 2009
111th Congress: Democrats had majority in House and Senate from 2009 to 2011

FOUR years: Jan 2007 to Jan 2011!! Did the Democrats do anything about immigration? NO!!

Remember, even Rep. Luis Gutierrez became impatient with his own Democrats colleagues!

The Health Care Reform took about one year (2009 to 2010) to complete to become law. But, they could have worked on both CIR and Health, like what this congress has been doing (gun control and CIR at the same time)!!
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I support Senator Cornyn's RESULT amendment. But the border security measures in the amendment should NOT be used as the trigger for the path to citizenship.

The Democrats should accept Senator Cornyn's amendment, but require the trigger stuff (if any at all) be eliminated from the amendment.


Did Senator Cornyn's amendment really say the border security measures will be *triggers* at all?
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I support Senator Cornyn's RESULT amendment. But the border security measures in the amendment should NOT be used as the trigger for the path to citizenship.

The Democrats should accept Senator Cornyn's amendment, but require the trigger stuff (if any at all) be eliminated from the amendment.


Did Senator Cornyn's amendment really say the border security measures will be *triggers* at all?
Yes, they are triggers (No LPR and therefore, no citizenship) until certain benchmarks are met. This is what Cornyn has on his website about it:

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Requires DHS Secretary and GAO Comptroller General to jointly certify that these triggers are met before Registered Provisional Immigrants (RPI) can adjust to Lawful Permanent Resident (“green card”) status:
  1. 100% Situational Awareness - monitoring capability at every segment of Southern border
  2. Full Operational Control - defined as at least 90% apprehension rate along Southern border
  3. Biometric Exit System - fully operational and in use at all air and sea ports of entry to which U.S. Customs and Border Protection is currently deployed; retains currant law for land ports
  4. Nationwide E-Verify System - must be implemented (identical to S.744)
I have no issue with triggers, if they are reasonable. What I take issue with are unattainable goals that will have our mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers languishing in RPI limbo. There was one amendment that had them losing RPI status if the government did not meet certain requirements. Thankfully it did not make it out of the Judiciary Committee.

If Cornyn's amendment allows RPI's to retain their status, and does not bar RPI's from pursuing existing channels for adjustment in the future (marriage to a USC/PR, previously filed family based petitions, employment petitions, etc), then I could be okay with the amendment should the Democrats support it. What worries me is RPI's losing their status because the border is only 99.9999% "secure."
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Yes, they are triggers (No LPR and therefore, no citizenship) until certain benchmarks are met. This is what Cornyn has on his website about it:



I have no issue with triggers, if they are reasonable. What I take issue with are unattainable goals that will have our mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers languishing in RPI limbo. There was one amendment that had them losing RPI status if the government did not meet certain requirements. Thankfully it did not make it out of the Judiciary Committee.

If Cornyn's amendment allows RPI's to retain their status, and does not bar RPI's from pursuing existing channels for adjustment in the future (marriage to a USC/PR, previously filed family based petitions, employment petitions, etc), then I could be okay with the amendment should the Democrats support it. What worries me is RPI's losing their status because the border is only 99.9999% "secure."


Republicans: Remove the above trigger to please the Democrats

Democrats: Accept the above amendment to please the Republicans
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