I do not support this version of Immigration Reform - Page 2

I kind of understand it, but as far as I know everyone who came here illegally came with the full knowledge that there existed the chance they would never even be given an opportunity for legalization. They also understood that they might be treated like second class citizens and still took it. They knew full well that they were going to pay taxes if they worked for a company and would not see those benefits of the taxes they paid.

Now you're saying that they suffered and struggled through it and deserve better. Most people who don't qualify for the DREAM Act 5 yr path should be happy at any damn chance they get. You realize that 13 yrs is still faster for most from many countries like Mexico and the Philippines than the standard path that has a wait time of 19 yrs right? Not only that but they get to stay with their kids in the USA. I bet you most are grateful if it passes instead of complaining about it.

That is why I'm saying if you want to debate why it's not fair then feel free to let me know, but it's a pretty fair deal for most people. Hey, I went into another country through non proper channels and they gave me a tough path but a chance to live there with my kids is what is going to cross most people who don't qualify for the DREAM Act. I hope you realize most USC want to get the message across that this is a tough but fair opportunity. It's not a mandatory thing they have to take. They can decide they don't like it and go back to their country if that is what they want.

They also distinguish the difference between minors and people who full well understood the consequences which is why I don't see why you think this bill isn't being fair to people. That was a critical distinction that should be made and was made.

I just want to say that this is in no way meant to be disrespectful to those first dreamers, who so many years ago challenged me to grow a pair and demand that my God given right to pursue freedom and happiness be recognized.

It is cause of them that I am proud to look anyone in the eye. I was comfortable in the shadow before I met those guys. I will celebrate these victory with you, I promise. Just think it could be more complete.

I love DREAMers and what they represent! I don't like this bill.

I'm not begging for anything, if this joke of a house doesn't pass the bill which I think is a somewhat fair bill with a good amount of work put into it, I'll eventually get married and become a citizen.. Life goes on

I totally see TC side of the issue and I totally understand it and agree with it but this is what we are being handed down. And quite frankly illegal aliens don't much of a saying since we are in a society we are not lawfully in.

What youre saying is true and make sense but then whats the alternative? not applying? continue living your like you are?

Otherwise youre just a dog barking and a dog with bark is not much of a dog. Bite whatever comes to you and take advantage of it. DACA was not much but it was better than we have before and some of us bit it and now are better than how we were before.

That is what Republicans and most ppl that support the bill are counting on. I get that. Many ppl on this forum feel the same way. I, to an extent feel that way.

We came into the country without permission yea, but we have lifted this country to greater hieghts than it could ever achieve without us. Cheap, reliable immigrant labor is the reason that America continues to prosper. On our backs and my family's back. Its been that way for 20 years now. But everyone turns a blind eye to that.

Instead it is undocumented worker this... or undocumented worker that... It was our family's God given right to pursue happiness, freedom. I mean why say it and not mean it? When ppl exercise their God given rights, not only do they spend 20yrs in the shadows but they get to spend another 13yrs proving to you that they are worthy of those rights.

I get it, our families risked their lives to come here and they should not be given special treatment for that. But what they did was special, an inspiration to all of us. They should be given special treatment. They earned it.

On the surface I guess you can argue the bill is fair. But honestly it is hypocritical that those that live in this country swear by their ideals but refuse to live by it. I find it distasteful and dishonest.

And yea the house might not pass it but am sure their nipples got hard when they heard those border security provisions in the new senate amendment. Man, I think I heard John B. bust a nut, and call all his tea party friends to do the same. F*** tea party, I really dislike those guys.

Its also really hard to get the momentum this CIR is getting. 9/11 forever mess up out chance because after that the republicans were not to keen on a reform. Bush tried it but the Senate killed it the house passed it and now things are opposite

do you guys think that if I qualified for DACA, will i automatically qualify for the Reform?

trying telling that to all the workers working in construction like roofers, carpenters, painters etc.. who cares all we want is to keep our current jobs and be able to travel to mexico and comeback legally... We dont care if we are not allowed to vote or get medical insurance your opinion is worthless

No, Cindy