'Dreamers' Who Left US Miss Immigration Reform - Page 2

Smooth · 07-18-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kabs

I was planning on leaving but couldn't afford the airfare. I feel for them

Same here. I was actually very close to leaving...good thing I didn't. Holy fuck I would have been so fucking devastated.

engineergirl · 07-18-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Last1Standing

I have visited this site for the last couple of years, I found it very helpful. Never thought of actually registering till reading this. Definitely hits home. I have several family members here in the states but the only undocumented were my Mother, brother and my self. Around 2007-08 the recession hit the family hard and my Mom felt she would have better luck in Mexico. Till this day she has not been able to find a job. Apparently age thus matter and also the fact that she hasn't been there for the last 20some years. In late 2011 my brother decided that he could not take it any more and in March of 2012 also left. We came to this country when he was 6yrs old and I was 4yrs. My mother tried in different occasions to legalized our situation but something always went wrong. Who would of known that if he would of just waited 3 more months. I can't wait for this law to pass so I can bring them back home.

I know! All my family went back to Mexico in May 2011. Needless to say both my parents are over the age of 45, have not been able to find jobs. The school system didn't even want to accept my siblings school records because who knows why so my parents have to enroll them in an "escuela abierta" or school for adults/drop outs. My sister didn't qualify for Financial Aid so she had to drop out of college after one semester. And the rest of the family was like "oh well" and didn't help them out one bit. It really sucks over there and I think the best decision of my life was to not go back with them.

MalditoDuende · 07-18-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Last1Standing

I have visited this site for the last couple of years, I found it very helpful. Never thought of actually registering till reading this. Definitely hits home. I have several family members here in the states but the only undocumented were my Mother, brother and my self. Around 2007-08 the recession hit the family hard and my Mom felt she would have better luck in Mexico. Till this day she has not been able to find a job. Apparently age thus matter and also the fact that she hasn't been there for the last 20some years. In late 2011 my brother decided that he could not take it any more and in March of 2012 also left. We came to this country when he was 6yrs old and I was 4yrs. My mother tried in different occasions to legalized our situation but something always went wrong. Who would of known that if he would of just waited 3 more months. I can't wait for this law to pass so I can bring them back home.

This, the employment discrimination that goes on in Mexico is sickening. An employer can post " in order to get this job you have to be 24 years old and be a hot as bitch with double D breasts" and its perfectly legal over there..

blackbird · 07-18-2013, 01:52 PM

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Oscar Eguibar is late for a job interview in Mexico City. Between bites of ham sandwich and swigs of Coca-Cola, he studies himself in the mirror. He takes off his black-rimmed Diesel prescription glasses. He puts them back on. He's not sure if he should have shaved off his two-day old beard.

OSCAR EGUIBAR [translator]: Definitely, if you look young, they won't take you seriously.

But he doesn't want to look too old, either. The job ad he responded to calls for a man at least 29, but no older than 40.

He's especially worried today because he got burned in his last job interview. Mancera-Ernst and Young was looking for a consultant no older than 28.

EGUIBAR [translator]: I could have passed for 28, but they called and interviewed me, and then the girl called me back and said, "Oh I'm sorry, I forgot to ask you your age. How old are you?" I said, "31." She said, "No, no, I don't think it's a problem" but she never called again.

Eguibar's experience is common in Mexico. Scan the country's largest job website, and hundreds of companies specify preferences for gender, age, marital status and — perhaps more covertly — skin color and sex appeal. Secretarial and administrative assistant positions call almost exclusively for young, single women with "good presentation." And managerial positions frequently look strictly for men, no older than 35, either married or divorced.

WILMA RAMIREZ [translator]: It's grave, it's really grave. And because of this we're way behind economically.

Wilma Ramirez is director of the complaints unit of Mexico's National Council to Prevent Discrimination. She receives about one complaint per day, and the three most common are for discrimination based on age, against those with HIV, and against pregnant women.

Ramirez says the result is a vast waste of human capital and loss of productivity. Many older engineers, for example, drive taxis.

RAMIREZ [translator]: You're taking opportunities and productivity away from the country because the person you're not hiring might be someone who's very productive and knowledgeable — who's going to help your company or institution grow.

Ramirez says Mexicans are so accustomed to inequity, that many don't even know what discrimination is. That's not so surprising in a country where discrimination has only been illegal since 2003. But what disturbs Ramirez more is that American and transnational companies based here are also posting jobs with requirements that would get them sued back home.

RAMIREZ [translator]: Transnational companies should bring their policies here to Mexico. But as soon as they get here, their policies don't apply. Instead of bringing them and generating a new employment culture, they come here, they take advantage of our discriminatory culture, and they reproduce it.

A recent scanning of job opportunities on the employment website revealed more than a dozen U.S. companies with discriminatory postings — among them Coca-Cola-Femsa, Pepsi Bottling Group, Lear Corporation, Accenture, Home Depot, Nine West, and Avon Cosmetics.

NAFTA expert Jamie Cooper says there's a reason American companies are going to places like Mexico to do business.

JAMIE COOPER: It's because of what we call social dumping, which is going to the lowest common denominator or bottom feeding, if you will.

Cooper says NAFTA's side agreement on labor calls for each country to enforce its own labor laws. Corporations know that enforcement in Mexico is lax, he says.

COOPER: It should be no surprise that there are no shortage of owners or multinational corporations or their operators that take advantage of uneven or inequitable labor laws in other countries. And if that means discrimination, well that's part of the game. That's called global capitalism.

After a Los Angeles Times report, job postings for Coca Cola-Femsa and Lear Corporation, appeared to have been taken down. Several companies declined to comment. Pepsi Bottling Group says it plans to remove the ads.

But this doesn't change reality for Adriana Borero. She's an unemployed architect. While she looks for work at Puebla's Ministry of Work and Competitiveness, she says the deck is double-stacked against her: She's over 40, and she's overweight.

ADRIANA BORERO [translator]: It's very sad because in Mexico we see very capable people. We see people who want to work. But I believe they think that after age 40 you don't need to eat. You're already dead.

In Mexico City, I'm Jordana Gustafson for Marketplace.

Envied · 02:37 PM

As you can see by my joined date, I´ve been following this site for quite sometime. I´m a Dreamer Abroad. I was caught by border patrol in Jacksonville while I was out travelling in Florida on July 2011.. Was sent back to my ¨home country¨ (Colombia, which I left when I was two years old (lived in the states for 18 years)) a month after being detained. It´s been hell. Two yrs and it´s been almost impossible to adapt. Been following you guys all along, hoping that this reform brings back all the broken up families together. Would like to thank you guys as well for sticking together through these tough times. Don´t ever lose this bond you guys share as a community.

Edit: Forgot to mention that the judge forced me to sign Voluntary Departure or else he would've staight out deported me anyway. And so I did.

Keche06 · 07-19-2013, 01:10 AM

I've been a long time reader, but i also had to register because this also hit me right at home.
I also consider myself a dreamer. I graduated from high school on may 06. At that time i knew there was no point in studying for a college degree in the US, because in the end i wouldnt be able to work. I figured the US doesnt want me,so i thought i have to become someone that the US wants. So right after i graduated i turned 18 and decided to leave and go back to mexico before i accumulate the time for a 10 year ban. So I left and went to Tijuana and decided to go medical school, because i had learned that there is a pathway to a green card for international medical graduates.

So with my goal in life to become someone that the US would want i studied medicine for 6 years, so in teh summer of 2012 i got my medical diploma. A few months later i heard that Obama signed DACA. Im not gonna lie, I did get mad because i had left the US for six years and studied for so long and still was no where near where i wanted to be and young people that stayed where getting ahead of me. I started thinking that i should have never left. I should have stayed. All this time wasted. Why are they getting a better treatment if i did the right thing? I thought.

After a few months i started to see posts from high school friends recieving the DACA aprooved forms and there EAD and the anger or jealousy went away, i was actuall glad for them. As for me i continue on mu dream to become someone the US cat refuse, so i kept studying for the USMLE Steps. Right now i have 1 step passed. Only 2 more to go before i can apply for a medical residency in the States. After my residency i plan to look for a job that may sponsor me for a green card and 5 years later citizenship. I know it make take longer but that is my DREAM. A dream i had back in 2006 and that is still alive today. I hope CIR passes,because my parents are still in the US.

Anyways thats my story sorry for have some kind of grudge against anda DACA recipient. I hope CIR becomes a law and hopefully in a few years im over there too.

kabs · 07-19-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Keche06

I've been a long time reader, but i also had to register because this also hit me right at home.
I also consider myself a dreamer. I graduated from high school on may 06. At that time i knew there was no point in studying for a college degree in the US, because in the end i wouldnt be able to work. I figured the US doesnt want me,so i thought i have to become someone that the US wants. So right after i graduated i turned 18 and decided to leave and go back to mexico before i accumulate the time for a 10 year ban. So I left and went to Tijuana and decided to go medical school, because i had learned that there is a pathway to a green card for international medical graduates.

So with my goal in life to become someone that the US would want i studied medicine for 6 years, so in teh summer of 2012 i got my medical diploma. A few months later i heard that Obama signed DACA. Im not gonna lie, I did get mad because i had left the US for six years and studied for so long and still was no where near where i wanted to be and young people that stayed where getting ahead of me. I started thinking that i should have never left. I should have stayed. All this time wasted. Why are they getting a better treatment if i did the right thing? I thought.

After a few months i started to see posts from high school friends recieving the DACA aprooved forms and there EAD and the anger or jealousy went away, i was actuall glad for them. As for me i continue on mu dream to become someone the US cat refuse, so i kept studying for the USMLE Steps. Right now i have 1 step passed. Only 2 more to go before i can apply for a medical residency in the States. After my residency i plan to look for a job that may sponsor me for a green card and 5 years later citizenship. I know it make take longer but that is my DREAM. A dream i had back in 2006 and that is still alive today. I hope CIR passes,because my parents are still in the US.

Anyways thats my story sorry for have some kind of grudge against anda DACA recipient. I hope CIR becomes a law and hopefully in a few years im over there too.

I completely understand your feelings and I'm really sorry that you are going through this. The fact of the matter is that I've waited 5 years since graduating college and those 5 years were hell because I kept second guessing why I was staying and watching the best years of my life slip away. It was by no means easy. I'm grateful for DACA now, but still can't get those years back.

The reality is that you had the courage to pursue your dream and I hope one day you get the opportunity to achieve it. I hope we can do something for someone like you because you had the guts to go after it, illegal status be damned.

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