Steve King: No Legal Status for DREAMers - Page 3

Not that we compare to the struggle that african americas had but I guess that in this idiot's mind blacks should still be slaves because " we can not violate the rule of law" which was the right to own a black person as an object/ property... You know, because feeling bad for blacks being slaves isnt enough to have granted them freedom......but I'm glad conservatives like him are slowly dying of age and their ideas will be burried in textbooks.

Well, you heard him kiddos. Get working on those chemistry degrees, and for those who already have a chemistry degree, start setting up those meth labs.

You don't think freeing slave was because the north was being kind and all right? the North actually didn't have a problem with slavery they just didn't want the South using slavery to grow strong enough to actually leave the country. Abe didn't even think black people should have any rights

You must've missed that part where he compared immigrants to dogs.

in what essence? Link to this?

This is precisely why this clown is not and will never become President of this country. Let him keep is ordinary House Rep position. He is not even fit to become a Senator. This is a very radical individual. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually pushes for Sensenbrenner type bills to criminalize all immigrants, legal and illegal aka the entire country lol.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/05/2...ter-like-dogs/



eh I've been called worse.

I think you are just nitpicking what he said instead of making a relevant response. Nonetheless, it's true that the mainstream Northern politicians were not interested in ending slavery in the South. They were mostly only interested in stopping its expansion. However, it's the South that overplayed its hand and therefore spelled their cherished institution's doom. To the South, keeping slavery only there wasn't enough. They wanted to spread it to the West, Central America and the Caribbean. The South had no justification for leaving the Union and ultimately they got what they deserved.

The thing about Abe Lincoln is that while he initially fell very short when it came to racial justice, he had evolved substantially enough by the war's end to have become much more enlightened. One great example is his decision to halt the exchange of POWs with the South despite the program's incredible popularity because of the South's refusal to treat black soldiers as POWs. Many captured black soldiers were either killed outright or turned into slaves. This was during a very difficult Presidential election campaign for Lincoln and his decision invited vicious racial attacks from Democrats.

Say that post is not relevant

continue on with the said irrelevant post

RogueRealist

Tortoise77's main point was about Steve King's misguided insistence (in his view) upon the principle of rule of law for refusing legalization. He probably did not make a valid point with his example of slavery because the slaves were granted formal freedom through legislative channels during the Civil War. Therefore the principle of rule of law was applied. However, that's not the main point you were talking about. It was also wrong for you to say that Lincoln believed blacks should have no rights. While it is true that's what he said prior to becoming President, that wasn't the position he had when he died. By the war's end, Lincoln was very much willing to giving voting rights to some black men.