I wish to dialog with Dreamers - Page 2

"the only people I have heard of being deported WERE in the midst of criminal activity."

so wrong , you obviously been "hearing" the wrong things ,

"BUT my experience is that the only people I have heard of being deported WERE in the midst of criminal activity"

"so once again I dont see why marching on the border when you have been deported makes sense"

i dont think YOU make sence , you obviously dont know the facts to these dreamers , as to why they were deported , but heres a little info so you can update yourselfs on their stories


http://www.kvoa.com/news/video-9-dep...o-deconcini/#_






Claudia Amaro, 37, from Monterrey, Mexico moved to Colorado when she was thirteen years old. Her mother fled Mexico after her father was murdered and the family was threatened. In 2006, while living in Wichita, Kansas, Claudia's next husband was detained while driving to work. ICE detained Claudia while interpreting for her husband. Living in Mexico has been hard for Claudia and her thirteen-year-old US citizen son. Finally, her mother gained legal status last year and was able to visit her grandson for the first time in seven years. Claudia is coming home to put the family back together that deportation tore apart.

Adriana Diaz, 22, from Mexico City, first came to Phoenix, Arizona when she was just four months old. Adriana graduated from Crestview Preparatory high school in 2010 with many accolades, including the Citizenship Award. To this day, two of her murals decorate its walls. Adriana left Phoenix three months before DACA was announced. She left because she was tired of living in fear under Arpaio, not knowing each night if her mom was going to come home.

Once in Nogales, Adriana tried to go to school. Because she lived so long in the US, Mexico recognized her as a foreign student and would not accept her US degree. Instead of going to school, Adriana has been working with migrants at the Juan Bosco shelter in Sonora. Adriana is coming home because she has no memories in Mexico. Her entire life was in Phoenix-she has memories of school, birthdays, going to prom-even her partner of four years lives in Phoenix. Everyone deserves to come home.
Luis Gustavo, 20, from Michoacán, Mexico has lived in North Carolina since he was five years old. He graduated from McDowell High School. Luis left Marion, NC, in

August 2011 with the hopes of being able to finally go to school in Mexico. Luis, not being able to stand being away from his family, tried to come home in June 2012 when the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program was announced.
Luis never made it; he was caught by border patrol. The responding agent sympathized with him, and filed for DACA on his behalf, but saw it rejected. Luis was subsequentlydeported. Desperate to come home, Luis attempted to re-enter three more times, and failed on each attempt. Luis is coming home to be with his mother, sister, and four brothers.

Maria Peniche, 22, from Mexico City first came to Boston when she was just ten years old. She graduated from Revere high school in 2010 and went on to attend Pine Manor College. By 2012, paying the high price of tuition became too difficult, and she dropped out. Three days before DACA was announced, Maria left for Mexico to continue her schooling. "Here in Mexico you can only do one thing, either work or go to school," she said. Maria has had to put off her studies and work in order to provide for her family. Maria is coming home to provide for herself and her family, and pursue her education.

Ceferino Santiago, 21, came to Lexington, Kentucky, at the age of thirteen in order to be with his older brother, Pedro. Ceferino is a permanent part of the Lexington community; he helped paint a mural at one of the local middle schools. During high-school, Ceferino ran for the school cross country team and was honored as one of the program's top student-athletes in 2010. After graduating from high school, Ceferino was forced to return to Oaxaca, Mexico because of an ear infection which required surgery that cost $21,000. Ceferino is coming home so he can be with his brother, his community, and to continue with his studies.

"BUT my experience is that the only people I have heard of being deported WERE in the midst of criminal activity."


The Obama administration is deporting fewer people than it did in 2011 or 2012, but has ousted more than 110,000 illegal immigrants this year who didn’t have criminal records,

"but has ousted more than 110,000 illegal immigrants this year who didn’t have criminal records,"

110.000 thus far this year who didnt have criminal records , bang so there you go , inform yourself s please , education is key people

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...o-deport-more/


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What I wonder is why now are you inquiring about the issue of Dreamers?

Dreamers are not a monolithic group simply by grouping and each individual will give you a different answer based on their own experiences.I also have to say in the past this site has been visited by many other individuals who claim to be American citizens that want to know more about Dreamers but were simply here from websites that are in opposition to anything that surrounded 'legalization' or the like.Your very first post sounded exactly like those particular individuals and I think many here might see that as being abrasive and not really willing to "dialog".If you're here to truly 'learn' as you say you certainly wouldn't allow miscommunication to get in your way.

I am inquiring about dreamers now because now I am hearing about it and I recently found out I actually do know real Dreamers, it was all sort of theoretical last year, but now I am hearing from real friends...and I googled and found this forum. And seeing real people fighting for this a few seemed stuck. I wanted to dialog my misunderstandings, I was reading and I hadn't heard about those people on the border with the exception of the ear guy I don't understand why they were deported. Not,liking my experience doesn't ,are it invalid but it does mean indeed to be exposed to others, which was why I came here. We dont have a ton of open minded people where i live, but my friends who are dreamers, they are here, and good citizens and neighbors, i wish them to stay. Abrasiveness goes both ways, i am for immigration reform, but i dont get the details on who,gets in if they aren't here. my news source didnt give the same details as the poster above with the marchers. Has the administration explained why those 110,000 were deported? Pardon the ignorance but don't they have to give you a reason?

Abrasiveness goes both ways, simply offering to link me to sites with facts would have helped more than telling me every non-citizen could do my job better than me and I am stupid. I already said I don't know anything other than the system is broken. But I am here so link me, teach me. Because I am open minded but the media where I am is not friendly to immigrants. At all.

So I don't even know where to look for decent sources, googling leads you everywhere. One cite says it will help the economy the other says it will crash the medical system prior to obamacare being ready....blah blah.

Soooo how does this help the cause?

the media is crap! , they controlled what you hear and you should never believe what you hear, again EDUCATION is key , educate yourself first before going off and telling people what you just saw heard etc. , and refering to the 110,000 , thus far if you read the article , which i doubt you did since you are asking once again , heres a little info

“DHS consistently misleads the public about who it is deporting,” said Jessica Karp, staff attorney at the National Day Laborer Organizing Network. “The Obama administration has created a ‘criminal immigrant’ boogeyman to justify unprecedented deportation levels. But when we look at the facts, again and again we see that the majority of those deported have no or only very minor misdemeanor convictions, including traffic offenses.”


"But when we look at the facts, again and again we see that the majority of those deported have no or only very minor misdemeanor convictions, including traffic offenses.”


"including traffic offenses"


theres your answer , the majority of them are being deported for traffic offenses ,

educate yourselfs on the program "comunidades seguras"

Ok. Well I am here to be educated, so thank you for the googling tip. I will look into it.

Is this the program I should be reviewing,the other pages were in Spanish. http://www.ice.gov/secure_communities/
Thanks