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Opinion: The House GOP Has An Alternative to the DREAM Act, and It's Better - Page 3

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08-21-2013, 02:40 AM
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Surprisingly, I would qualify for this...I came here when I was 10, a few weeks before starting Middle School. My English is not bad, I've never left the country, I say "screw my old country", college is done, and the rest of my family is legal so no chain legalization needed!

Woohoo! KIDS Act! GOP! GOP! GOP!
Are you sure? It said before 10 which means the child had to be here before turning 10 right?

What if the child was 11 but had not yet started Middle School which I believe is 6th grade?
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Are you sure? It said before 10 which means the child had to be here before turning 10 right?

What if the child was 11 but had not yet started Middle School which I believe is 6th grade?
Theres no what ifs should they choose that age limit of 10. If you dont qualify then you dont qualify
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Are you sure? It said before 10 which means the child had to be here before turning 10 right?

What if the child was 11 but had not yet started Middle School which I believe is 6th grade?
Well it said "at least before they start middle school". But who are we kidding here, this won't ever ever pass
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What if the child was 11 but had not started Middle School in the USA?
Then you're beat yeaaaa BUDDEY! Lets get a 25- bill!! Predicting its going to pass this week!
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Oh man, I came here when I was 13, just a month short of my 14th birthday. :/
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I think there are two general arguments that would produce different bills. This is because the definition of "dreamer" is not clearly defined.

Argument no. 1 "Children who came to the U.S. through no fault of their own and were brough here by their parents who broke the law." Ok in this scenario anybody under the age of 18 should qualify. Because universally an adult is usually defined as 18 or 21 years old. Say the child is 16 and his parents are immigrating to the U.S. If the kid has no family in the foreign country and he will not be able to support himself until he turns 18 how can he stay in the home country lacking life skills and the financial support of a parent? Maybe if the kid is 17 he can tough out a couple of months... So an age limit of 16 would be ok?

Argument no. 2 "A dream act should only benefit people who were brought here as children to the point they would be 'lost' if they were deported to their home country. And they are American by culture and have no attachment to their home country." For the first part of this argument a child is clearly anybody who is immature enough to depend on their parents a lot and can not responsibly make his or her own decisions. So technically you are not a teen until 13 years old. Now when can exactly does a child build an attachment to a cultural identity... That is impossible to define. It could be in five years or it could take a lifetime. For example I don't feel Mexican or American. More like a hybrid. But let's be real anybody over the age of 21 can tough it out in a home country even without identity or understanding of the place... So is an upper age cap fair? Imo no... But an argument can be made either way.

From what I can make it 16 is a fair number between 13 and 18. But compromise is something Washington is struggling with today.

Imo a fair 'kids act or dream act' would include DACA like prerequisites and no upper age cap. And dreamers should be trying to better themselves even with a 2 year degree from a community college. Or working towards one. And I feel no sympathy for people who CHOSE to leave the country and complain the dream act would not benefit them, if they were unjustly deported then they should qualify.
This is another opinion piece from a dreamer who is being as fair and unbiased as possible. I came here when I was 8 and I am 25. Would feel bad if a lot of dreamers were omitted from any bill unjustly.
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i my opinion is equation they are using to pass immigration reform . X=10 % of any number meaningful number

10-11 million undocumented people %10
about 1 million/Dream Act %10
about 100 thousand/ Kids Act % 10
about ten thousand/ /kids Act after amendments
% = X



if this so called Kids Act bill passes, i ll be happy and angry at the same time. but i think that later down the road,they will introduced an amendment to bill with the same basic idea. which is legalized as few as possible and no short path to citizenship. What would be the eligibility criteria for Lite Kid Act
A. You Must not be able to speak any foreign language .
B. You must have arrived in the United States before developing foreign speech and language skills.
you can never be too sure about foreigners.



we are i bit of trouble . These politicians only care about winning elections and money, they don't give a damn about people . President Obama is the solution to this problem because he is not up for reelection. So President Obama Please do something before the Republicans find ways to block executive order.
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if you didn't start MS in the US, then you're screwed.

whatever it takes, bro!
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It's an opinion piece, so let's just keep that in mind.



This is what they always come back to, though. She advocates no upper age cap, but a lower one which would potentially disqualify more people. Gotcha.
Good thing my parents brought me into this country when I was 2 years old!
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Theres no what ifs should they choose that age limit of 10. If you dont qualify then you dont qualify
It said 'at least before they start middle school'. This means age does not matter as long as the undocumented started Middle School in the USA?



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Well it said "at least before they start middle school". But who are we kidding here, this won't ever ever pass
It said 'at least before they start middle school'. This means age does not matter as long as the undocumented started Middle School in the USA?


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Then you're beat yeaaaa BUDDEY! Lets get a 25- bill!! Predicting its going to pass this week!
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