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10-04-2013, 04:44 PM
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I am offered a position for a clerk in a law firm. Yes, I'm at the teeth of the legal field. I can apply because I am a DACA individual. My only concern is that: if they will question about what I've brought, because they're attorneys anyway, and I'm sure they would scratch their heads if I surprise them. They are probably used to hiring U.S. Citizens, and most of the employers in the firm, I can tell, are citizens.

The attorney that I'm assigned with, asked me to bring copies of my DL, SSN and a valid Birth Certificate or U.S. Passport.

There is a catch though, I do not drive yet but I have a valid State I.D. The job does not require driving because it's office work and I can easily commute to the firm in under thirty minutes. Furthermore, the attorney mentioned to bring either a birth certificate or a U.S Passport. I do not have a U.S Passport but I can bring my birth certificate. But this was all a request through email before my offer was extended, and (the documents she asked) are for, mentioned, verification purpose. I do not want to ask through email because I want to avoid the hassle, however I am clearance confirmed, my provided record was cleared prior to getting signed up.

My question is, should I then just provide the passport of the country I'm from? Or should I actually bring my birth certificate from the country I am from? And I do not have a drivers license yet but I'm sure they'll accept my state I.D- This and my SSN is what cleared me to be able to apply to the firm.

Moreover, I know duality of either an EID and State I.D is sufficient enough. The attorney just probably wants to make sure, however, I don't want to surprise any personnel that would keep me to the curve.

Thoughts and suggestions? Have you experienced the same?

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I am offered a position for a clerk in a law firm. Yes, I'm a the teeth of the legal field. However, I can apply because I am a DACA individual. My only concern is that: They would question about what I will bring; because they're attorneys anyway and I'm sure they would scratch their heads if I surprise them- They are probably used on hiring U.S. Citizens, and most of the employers in the firm, I can tell, are citizens.

The attorney that I'm assigned to asked me to bring copies of my DL, SSN and a valid Birth Certificate or U.S. Passport.

There is a catch though, I do not drive yet but I have a valid State I.D. The job does not require driving because it's office work and I can easily commute to the firm in under thirty minutes. Furthermore, the attorney mentioned to bring either a birth certificate or a U.S Passport. I do not have a U.S Passport but I can bring my birth certificate. This is all a request through email after I was offered, by the way, and it's for verification purposes- I do not want to ask through email because I want to avoid the hassle, but I am confirmed, and my provided record was cleared prior to getting signed up.

My question is, should I then just provide the passport of the country I'm from? Or should I actually bring my birth certificate from the country I am from? And I do not have a drivers license yet but I'm sure they'll accept my state I.D- This and my SSN is what cleared me to be able to apply to the firm.

Moreover, I know duality of either an EID and State I.D is sufficient enough. The attorney just probably wants to make sure, however, I don't want to surprise any personnel that would keep me to the curve.

Thoughts and suggestions? Have you experienced the same?
Like we've argued here, nobody should 'make you' bring documents proving your identity until you've signed the job offer (and that would only be for the I-9). Now, if you volunteered saying that you're a DACA recipient, that's another issue. Unless, of course, they're authorized by law to ask for all the documents, but if you're a clerk, I doubt it.

The reason is (and people still don't believe me), people will discriminate if you're not a USC, and doing that is illegal (check the EEOC website).

EDIT: I'm not making this up, read it from the EEOC website.

When filing out the I-9, your EAD card IS ENOUGH to satisfy its requirements.
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Agree with TexanJose, They cannot discriminate against you. They probably just asked you to bring those documents so you can fill the I-9 out and that they assumed that you were a citizen.

Anyways, if they give you a hard time, mention the info listed above.
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This is a direct quote from the I-9 form:

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ANTI-DISCRIMINATION NOTICE: It is illegal to discriminate against work-authorized individuals. Employers CANNOT specify which document(s) they will accept from an employee. The refusal to hire an individual because the documentation presented has a future expiration date may also constitute illegal discrimination.
Your EAD is on list A, which means by itself it's enough to establish both identity and employment authorization. If you feel uneasy, go ahead and bring your state ID and SSN card. However, do not bring your foreign BC nor passport, as they are useless for the purpose of proving employment authorization and can only get you prejudiced.
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Yes I agree with the above posters, do not bring a passport or birth certificate. You can easly use your government issued ID and EAD card to fill out the I-9 once you've signed a job offer.
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Hold up though, if this job has anything to do with security clearance and such they're allowed to ask for whatever they please. If you chose to apply to work at BOEING for example (and only certain parts of boeing) you have to be a citizen of this country for 10 years, it really depends on where you're applying. If this is for a shit job, then obviously there's some problems there.
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If this is a security clearance job then he won't qualify, so bringing in his foreign BC and passport is just as pointless. If it's not a gov't job, then the EAD alone is good enough.
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I agree with others. And like you mentioned in your post, they're probably used to hiring USC's. So hence why you were asked for your BC, passport, and DL. DL and BC covers list b and c on the I-9 and passport covers list A on the I-9. Your EAD should be good enough. It's one of the items on list A because it shows your identity and your authorization to work in the USA.
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Do not bring passport. Bring your EAD, SSN, State ID, and your birth certificate.

By the way, get your driver's license.
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You should just try to avoid giving them specific information until you are there, and when you are there and they ask you, tell them, "I have work authorization".

In just about any job they ask, do you have a green card? , I tell them, "I have work authorization", then they change the question, "Are you a citizen", I reply, "I have work authorization". Then they may change the question, do you need sponsorship or can you work for any employer, "I have work authorization, Yes I can work for any employer".

Obviously - based on the remarks, when they are asking for your birth certificate they expect your "American" birth certificate.
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