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02-20-2014, 03:11 PM
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Last year, I relate a story in a thread. My father's childhood friend's son came to US two years ago. He obtained a student visa to Canada and immediately bought a ticket to US as soon as he touches Canadian soil. He later filed for Religious Asylum on the ground that he was targeted by the Chinese government through his practice of Falun Gong. He was granted and have just received his green card last year.

He have recently went back to China for the Chinese New Year, and while on the phone with his dad (who is currently in the US with travel visa and also in Asylum proceeding) he relate to his father how he dislike the US. And does not wish to come back.

I can understand his reasoning, he is 20, too old to be immersed into the US, knows very little English and would basically be blind and deaf if he were to venture out of Chinese community. And with a poor family background he works 10 hours a day, 6 days a week as a waiter to support himself, his family and to pay off the debt that the family acquired to "buy" that student visa that got him out in the first place. It's a stressful life, completely opposite of what the perception of Chinese have for the US. And I don't blame him for hating it.

But, I don't know how I should react to this, it fills me with many emotions. He got something that I been long for for 17 years... and he didn't want it.

sigh.
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02-20-2014, 03:31 PM
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Since he spends most of his time in the Asian community, why not take him out of that environment gradually? Introduce him to life outside of what he is use to, the true America. Coming from China directly into the Chinese community will make him feel at home, but if he is unhappy, try to help him assimilate gradually, perhaps by starting to learn more in depth English language.
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02-20-2014, 05:16 PM
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I understand your point and emotions. I feel the same way when i see people my age who are permanent residents who commit crimes that renders them removable and end up loosing their LPR status.. like WTF people i have been wanting that for so long and you are just going to be stupid and lose it for the dumbest things.... SMH
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02-20-2014, 05:44 PM
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Some people just doesn't have what it takes. In his case I can understand that it's tough because he has to send money to his family. However, once he paid off his debt, he could have reduced his hours at the restaurant and started taking English classes, followed by enrollment in community college later. As a GC holder he would qualify for in-state tuition rate.

Just don't fret about him. His getting GC is not making your prospect at GC harder.
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02-20-2014, 06:54 PM
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I don't think you should worry or feel anything about this situation. Like someone else already said, him getting a GC won't make it easier or harder to get yours.

I just don't know understand people who think like you. We're not robots. We can't all behave the same way. Plus, this guy is super young. Not everybody is super mature at 20.


Focus on fixing YOUR situation.
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02-20-2014, 07:41 PM
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He got something that I been long for for 17 years... and he didn't want it.
One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Come on, that's like one of the fundamental laws of life.

Big deal.
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02-20-2014, 09:09 PM
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I am kinda confused. If you receive asylum, why would you go back to that country? The whole point is that you are in fear for your life and you cannot go back to your country of origin. So when you go back, does that not raise a red flag? Or it just does not matter because the guy got his green card already? Seems like fraud to me.

Anyways, it is ok to get those feelings. Still........you should always be grateful for you do have. You aren't exactly undocumented now. At least you have DACA. Who knows what the future may hold? You might be on your way to getting a green card too.........
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02-20-2014, 09:59 PM
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LOL, he exploited the asylum system like a boss.

LOL, he came here for the easy life, and then ran away when it didn't turn out exactly how he wanted it, best of luck to him...lol...

TC, don't worry about this shit...there are billions of life stories that aren't for the feint of heart...this is just 1...don't let it get to you.
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02-20-2014, 10:58 PM
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One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Come on, that's like one of the fundamental laws of life.

Big deal.
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I don't think you should worry or feel anything about this situation. Like someone else already said, him getting a GC won't make it easier or harder to get yours.

I just don't know understand people who think like you. We're not robots. We can't all behave the same way. Plus, this guy is super young. Not everybody is super mature at 20.


Focus on fixing YOUR situation.
Sorry if I come off wrong, but I doesn't mean anything bad. It just make me ponder a lot that's all. Especially with how Immigration Reform is going lately, so it does pains me to see how fast/easy he got his GC while we struggle on.

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I am kinda confused. If you receive asylum, why would you go back to that country? The whole point is that you are in fear for your life and you cannot go back to your country of origin. So when you go back, does that not raise a red flag? Or it just does not matter because the guy got his green card already? Seems like fraud to me.

Anyways, it is ok to get those feelings. Still........you should always be grateful for you do have. You aren't exactly undocumented now. At least you have DACA. Who knows what the future may hold? You might be on your way to getting a green card too.........
Lol, the fear for his life is completely false. Yes, the Chinese government break down on Falun Gong decades ago, but they done it so thoroughly that none of the younger generation have ever see it in person, much less practice it. So, yeah, it's completely bullshit.

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LOL, he exploited the asylum system like a boss.

LOL, he came here for the easy life, and then ran away when it didn't turn out exactly how he wanted it, best of luck to him...lol...

TC, don't worry about this shit...there are billions of life stories that aren't for the feint of heart...this is just 1...don't let it get to you.
Yes, there are countless of such stories, but this is one that's too close to me. I remember the day that my dad went to pick him up in the air port and he lived with us for a week or so.

Great guy overall.
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02-20-2014, 11:49 PM
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My DACA got denied, and I did qualify. My cousin got approved, she barely finished high school. She's married to a USC, so at some point she'll get her GC, so in a way she didn't really need DACA.
I know four languages, and soon I will get my B.S. I'm planning on getting my Masters. It makes me happy to know that at least she now has DACA. DACA would've made my life easier though. I was genuinely happy when I heard she got approved.

I also know a guy who didn't go through the entire process of getting a GC (when he could've) just because he didn't find a gf here in the U.S.... Do you have any idea what I would've given to have had the opportunity he wasted?? I think you do. But I can't think about stuff like this otherwise I'll just go crazy. We all want different things.

I actually feel sorry for your cousin. It sounds like he feels miserable.
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