Don't know how to react to this... - Page 2

Not really my cousin, just the son of my dad's childhood friend. And yes, I do believe he is miserable. According to my dad, his father is a lazy ass who didn't work for over a decade, lived in the house that his grandfather build (read; worn and broken), so it is all up to him to pull himself and family up.

Chinese's perception of US is that of paradise, good living and good money (they like to convert USD to RMB while not realizing that we are also USING USD). Thus, I can't imagine what is in his mind when he have to work 10 hour a day to just survive and he can't complain to anyone in China since no one would believe him.

Majority of his salary goes to his family (which is... well, his mom) and he barely sees a future.

Most importantly is that his situation rendered him unable to attend school. His family needs the money. I remember my dad had tried to persuade his father to let him attend school for few years when he first arrived. And his father turned it down. He is suppose to be the family's major provider (his father doesn't work and his mother work at small odd jobs here and there, nothing stable). Not to come and attend school.

Bling Bling is what his father wants. I would imagine the rush he felt when his HS graduated son send home the amount of money that's more than what your average college graduate earn in China even thought his son had JUST came to the US.

I completely understand why he does it, stranger in a strange land. But I really hate it.

(Anyway, he may still come back. He got the Greencard for it)

I don't know if he can come back to USA that easily. He claimed of being persecuted in China, yet he made this trip to China. When the CBP officer sees him at the airport with China stamp on his passport, he could initiate fraud investigation that can end up in GC revocation.

Every GC is marked with the type of case under which it's granted. On top of it the GC number is actually the USCIS case number. It is patently obvious to anybody who understands the code that it's a GC through asylum.

This sort of thing enrages me. It's an obvious abuse of the system and somehow they are 100% legal and we are the ones called illegal. In one of my previous shitty jobs, they hired a guy who had received refugee status from the UN along with some money for food, shelter, school, etc. The money for everything except the school had ran out so after a year, his lazy ass finally decided to get a part time job and there he was working under me as a carwash guy.

He worked about 8 hours a week and all he did was complain about how much he hated it here. Supposedly he was in prison in the old country and that's why he got out and feared going back blahblahblah. He didn't speak a word of English, didn't take any classes, and never took advantage of the opportunities people in the community gave him - like one guy gave him a free older car which he wrecked soon after that.

He once went to a job interview and told the owner "I want a job where I sit down all day, don't have to talk to people, and it's easy work." The owner (my boss's friend) told him "So you're saying you want to be the boss...I already have that job".

A year after I quit that really really shitty job, that guy called me to say goodbye. He said he was going back to the old country, the same country that he had supposedly fled due to fear. Now he had his green card and could go back and fourth. I was really hoping that if he came back, they would bust his ass and take his green card away because he obviously was not in fear of going back, but apparently, that shit is ok, but we the people who love this country are all evil illegals and he's a model immigrant.

I saw him about 8 years later while out on a date leaving a bar and he was one of those guys selling $5 pizzas to hungry drunks out of the trunk of his car. Completely pathetic. I saw him 2 years later while out on another date (with someone else) at a Martini bar and he was again walking in asking if anybody wanted to buy a pizza...this time we both kind of ignored each other. Maybe it was the Martini (that particular place makes them damn strong) but I got kind of pissed so my date (who didn't know about my situation) was asking what was up so explained to him how horribly lazy that guy was and how he threw away the best opportunity etc.

Needless to say, the girl thought I must have been really evil for looking down on a poor wittle pizza sales guy from my ivory tower so we didn't go out on another date, but that asshole is still walking around with his green card.

Morrow, since you already have DACA, I hope you report this guy. Make an anonymous report. Rat him out. He's not one of us. Do him a favor by making sure he stays in China.

He's not one of us, so its okay to harm him? With that sort of thinking we aren't any better than those who attack us.

There is good reason for us to be resentful when we see people piss away their opportunities. Nothing infuriates me more than when a bum asks for money. That doesn't mean we get the right to harm them though.

No, he's hurting us. He doesn't even want to be here and yet he's scamming the system with a bogus asyulm case.

Just let it go. Not worth your time.

How is he hurting you? Has he ever robbed you? Has he physically hurt you?

At best he is hurting the reputation of immigrants. Are you sure you want to make that claim though? If you do you must also accept the complaints from nativists that complain migrants hurt the US' image or that we're ruining the culture whenever we speak in our native tongues.

Or do you think he's hurting us because he's 'abusing' the system? If you think that, then you must also accept the complaints from legal migrants that complain that us 'illegals' are harming them because we didn't follow the rules. He didn't create the system. A bunch of idiots in DC created the system and their successors perpetuated it. Be angry at them for the system. This bum though? I somehow doubt he has ever been elected into office or even worked for USCIS.

Be angry at the bum if you think he's wasted his potential. He certainly has and is paying for it. Don't conflate that to mean he has harmed you though.

There is a finite number of green cards given out every year for various purposes. For every one given to an ungrateful person who doesn't want to be here, there is a deserving person who didn't get it. For me, waiting for a family petition, I see many people who also got family petitions before me who don't want to really be here and they are directly hurting me. If this guy got his green card from a different pool, he's still hurting me because my own asylum case was denied over 20 years ago and unlike him, my case was legitimate but due to people like him and fraud ,was denied.

I restate myself,

He didn't create the system. He can't be blamed for its flaws. If you believe otherwise then you also accept complaints that we've harmed legal migrants. Do a quick google search and you've find plenty of complaints that DACA has caused delayed for other immigration applications. Should we all refuse to accept DACA because of delays it might have caused?

Of course not. We didn't create this system either.

Also, as a point of order there isn't a cap of asylum cases. Family and work related visas are capped. There is a refugee cap. There isn't an asylum cap though.

There is a ceiling for asylees and refugees, the number is set every year by the president. However, this number doesn't affect the quota for any other categories. Regardless of how many asylees/refugees admitted each year, the quota for family-based visa doesn't change, because it's spelled out in the law so the president can't modify it.

The ceiling for asylees/refugees is typically high enough to cover all approved applicants. I do agree that the high percentage of fraudulent applications does make it harder for everybody, because it makes the interviewing officers more suspicious of every applicant.