US Representative Steve King Has Heated Confrontation With Dreamers - Page 7

Sweetheart, I don't watch MSNBC nor your precious Faux News. In fact, only TV I watch is It's Always in Sunny. Great funny show. I read articles. Various articles on any issue. I come to my own conclusion from reading multiple sources. You see, I know how to read and form my own conclusions like a fluent English speaking adult. Are you disappointed I don't fit your stereotype?

You can continue to claim that most people who are against it are not racist. I as a minority in this country (and not a brown/hispanic minority at that), know how ridiculously racist this country can be, especially the ones from the South and the Midwest. There has been such outraged over Spanish being spoken in this country. That is MORE than enough to know "i'm not a racist" is just a cover up. Sure, there can be truly non-racist people who oppose it, but I really highly doubt majority of them who are against illegals would be really not racist. As some other poster here said, if majority of illegals were whites, there certainly would be much more approval.

Again, scapegoating a group that is less than 5% in this country and making them to be a major economic issue in U.S. is ridiculous. How stupid can you be?

Ok, this will be my final response to you. I am busy. I don't have time for your prepubescent nonsense. And, I am not your sweetheart. I am a grown woman with a husband and son. Continue to rant to your heart's desire. But, be advised, the more you post, the more you discredit your cause. Apparently, you don't realize other citizens also visit this forum. Some are fence-sitters. But, I am sure you don't care. After all, you don't want support from citizens. You don't need our help. We're all racists for not embracing massive illegal immigration.

You clearly lack civility, maturity, class, as well as critical thinking skills. Faux News? How very childish. Grow up. All media is biased, including Fox News. I have no affinity for any news outlet. I take it all with a grain of salt.

Yes, some of the fringe anti-illegal groups are indeed racist. I don't associate with them. I loathe racism, in any flavor. But, they do NOT represent the majority of opposition. Are you not aware of the existence of the "silent majority?" However, if vilifying opposition is the only way you can rationalize your illegal existence in this country, please knock yourself out. Repeating a lie will not make it true.

You paint all opposition with the racism brush, because you lack a cogent defense. After all, there is no defense for the indefensible. When all else fails, you play the race card. Well, that race card has become rather old and tattered. Adults of average intelligence are capable of discerning real racism from the agenda-driven manufactured. Decent citizens have grown tired of your baseless accusations. We don't care anymore.

Make no mistake, there are also racists on the pro-illegal side. You have a few here. Or, haven't you noticed? I applaud kabs for calling one out yesterday.

I could not possibly care less if you are Black, White, Asian, or polka dot. I was born and raised in this country. I have a thorough understanding of its racist history. Sadly, I also realize racism will never die.

If you hate this country so, and believe it's replete with racist anti-illegal citizens, why don't you leave? After all, this is not your country. Go home where you will be welcome by all, and let the decent Dreamers realize their dreams. They don't need your ilk as an impediment.

shut. The. F*** up.

I called out Enough irrationally racism and hate for illegal immigration as seen by his passion of making an account here a obvious name such as enough. No mas would have been too obvious.


As I said talking with this person is the equivalent as those Washington post people make. No matter what point you bring out. This person will find something around it republicanize it back.


I am surprised some of you are actually responding to that person

I'm not surprised this got ugly.

People should only write posts that they would be okay publishing under their real names. Think, "if this website were to be hacked, what would happen if my identity were revealed?".

Nothing online is truly anonymous despite appearances.

It's truly sad how some dreamers would be willing to deport their parents just to side with an obvious passionate eloquent Alipac troll who shows fake compassion and even fabricates a story of how he/she is married with a LEGAL immigrant to try to rally a non-existent support.

She says that hes from South American, came with a visa, adjusted and became a citizenship.

Then goes around saying how there are too many work visas given out and taking the jobs out of REAL americans employees.

While her own husband came with a visa, and took the job out of a REAL hard working american. Regardless if he adjusted or not, he still a job away from a natural born citizenship.

In some posts, she talks about how dreamers as adults should take responsibility and should just adjust seeing how her husband did it just fine with out error. Then goes around shes compassionate towards dreamers?

Miss Obvious, I mean ENOUGH post read as well fabricated reddit posts found in the anti illegal alien subreddit.

Her tone is patronizing and condescending. I'm always suspect of individuals who see the world in black and white; it shows a lack of awareness and flexibility. Her responses are well-written, but do not take into account that the reality of illegal immigration has changed. It has changed because the public now knows that an illegal immigrant's conduct can be and is affected by his or her limitations in society.

Every "dreamer" (ridiculous term, really) that has been able to lead a productive life has done so because the opportunities needed for it were available to him or her at the right time. As with many things in life, it is a matter of timing. Had the president not exploited immigration for political gain for years and had decided to pilot DACA from the beginning and not impose arbitrary age limits, @dvrenom, @IamAman, me, and countless others would have been able to move forward with other aspects of our lives.

The economy of immigrants' labor - holding a green card or not - and the consumption that comes along with it powers a large sector of this country's productivity. And that's a fact. It's the same all over the world where the human resources of the south create wealth in the north. We are caught in it.

I will let this response be my last on this forum. This has been a total waste of time. I now realize some of you are so full of anger and hatred towards the citizens of this country, blaming us for your dilemma, that you will never embrace this country as your own. We will always be the enemy. I have never had a problem admitting a mistake. I realize now it was a mistake to come here, because some of you can't see beyond your hate.

I stated from the beginning my purpose for posting here. I had no ulterior motives. I am not a member of Alipac or any other organization. I am simply a concerned citizen. I chose the moniker "Enough" because I have indeed had enough of the status quo and unabated illegal immigration. Had I something to hide, I have enough intelligence to have chosen a less conspicuous moniker.

I wasn't going to return here. But, was hopeful that at least one member would understand my intent. Apparently not. I was not always a supporter of the DREAM Act. However, over time, I realized it was wrong to blame those who truly had no choice in the matter. I can't consider myself a Christian if I can't have compassion for the innocent. God softened my heart.

I have no reason to fabricate anything. The info I shared regarding my marriage is true. If not for legal immigration, I would not have him or my wonderful son. I am thankful he was welcomed into this country. He's a trauma surgeon, so he has most definitely been an asset. His skills have saved many lives. I am very proud of him.

Clearly, nothing I say will change the hearts and minds of some on this forum. You will continue to believe I am a troll, Republican plant, or whatever suits your purpose. I can't change that, nor will I try.

I could have easily pretended to support CIR. But, then I would not have been true to myself. I stated my reasons for opposition. If anything I posted was a lie, you had every opportunity to refute with credible evidence. You didn't. Rather, you chose to attack me.

I will not return to this forum, and will advise all I know to do the same. Why should anyone try to understand your plight or point of view, when you clearly have no desire to understand ours? There are two sides to every issue. Without honest dialogue it will continue to be "us vs. them." Partisanship accomplishes nothing.

Flame all you want. I have nothing further to say. If the DREAM Act continues to be your pipe dream, you will have no one to blame but yourselves. I tried to help you understand the mistakes being made by your group. It wasn't appreciated. In your mind, one is either for all or against all. Have it your way.

Goodbye and God bless.

lol this is comical, just get out.

In all seriousness though. I don't see anyone "hating" on you. You need to take a break from watching Faux news program, all the hatred and fear mongering in that station will mess with your head causing you to become delusional thinking that everyone hates you and blames you for everything.

O'bummer

So where do you think Obama's birthplace is?