Should I go abroad or wait? - Page 2

Double post

A condescending advice to work, because he assumed I wasn't already doing it?

Yeah, that's real good advice. Too bad it's something I'm already doing.

And I came here for advice, not criticism.

It's your choice to get insulted but working 40 hours isn't going to cut it if you want to live and go to school. That's just the reality. The other option of going abroad is what white kids do when they want to go find themselves after graduation.

Yeah? Well tell that to people in my area who can barely get 30 hours a week. I'd like to see the kind of response you'd get from them.

Don't keep arguing with him - if it offends you, ignore it. It's his opinion.

If it's hard to get hours where you are - move. It doesn't have to be abroad; going overseas is just extreme for most of us. What state are you in? Do they offer in-state tuition? Are you living with people who share living expenses? Do you plan on coming back to the US after studying? If you're under DACA.. chances of you going across the sea to study full time for more than one semester and being able to come back.. slim to none. Make sure you're ready for that commitment of living there once you're done with studies.

On the other hand, if you are still living with parents, consider taking out a loan IF your concentration of study is sure to land you a decent paying job. People hate the idea of interest but if you really want to graduate faster via full-time student, you gotta take the hit somewhere.

Or you can choose to be a part time student when you get to an University. That way you can support yourself and pay the tuition (take maybe one or two classes) while completing your degree though it might take a longer time. However, this might be a viable plan then going abroad especially if you were under DACA-- no one knew what new policy might come in the future.

I don't know the people in your area, but they have work permits and want to go to school, I'd tell them the same thing. Do you know how many Americans I know who have around $100,000 in student loans? A college education is not a right.

You're right, you don't know them. They are American citizens, some whom have been out of jobs for years.

I don't complain about 40 hours a week, in fact, I said any chance I get for over-time, I do it.

And you're wrong-- a college education is a right, maybe not by law, but it should be a right for anyone willing to pursue it, sorry you believe otherwise.

And just because others are willing to get into that much debt, doesn't mean the rest of us should follow suit.

Stop undermining anyone else who isn't willing to do what you're doing, because clearly you try to imply that anyone who isn't willing to go to extremes is less deserving.

I would recommend not volunteering and picking up an extra job walking dogs or whatever comes up.
I know it might be something you like, but we're not really in a position to do things for free.
If you can't find a job, then spend it working out.
It might sound silly , but health bills can get real expensive real quick.

I honestly don't know why you're so angry or what you expect to hear. I've made factual statements and you get angry. I give my opinion and you get angry. It's not my fault you can't afford to go to the university you want to go to and live the lifestyle you want to and no advice anybody on here will give you will change your reality.

So again, here we are. You first asked whether you should go abroad to study. Let's study this closer to see whether it makes sense. Where is this "Abroad"? your home country or somewhere else? Do they even want you in this "Abroad"? Are things free "abroad"? Let's say "abroad" has streets lined up with chocolate and gumdrops and you'll be welcomed with open arms and given a free house to live in and free college. This brings up a few other questions:
1. If you have such a great place to live in where you speak the language, have a place to live and can afford to go to college, what are you even doing in the US living without documents? Most Dreamers have nowhere else to go.

2. How will you get there? AP? You think they give out AP to illegals so they can go spend 3 years abroad and then come back and be told "Hey buddy! Welcome back! Here is a Green card since we're giving them away now to everybody who had waited here".

So in short, I don't think you have any way of even going abroad short of getting AP for a relative dying or MAYBE a semester somewhere if you're suave enough. Paying for it all is a different story. Soooooo you're stuck here with the rest of us. Now what?

As I said before, you have to get a scholarship, loan, or work more, find a cheaper public university, take less classes, etc. Or just be angry at me and tell me how it's your right to go to a university. Those are more or less facts.

Now for my opinion, no I don't think college is a right. Sure, many people who don't really deserve to go to college go there because they have rich parents and they want to go party, but it doesn't mean that poor people who don't deserve to go to college need to go either. What would be the value of it if everybody was allowed to go there? I think people who really want to get a degree find a way to get it. They'll be told they don't deserve to go to college and they use that as motivation to work 2 shifts and even if takes them 8 years, they'll graduate.