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Got fired today despite having DACA - Page 6

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#51
10-06-2014, 02:16 AM
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its also hilarious how people with status and those with out status see things

People with out status: Man I hope Obama does something soon
People with DACA: F*ck Obaclown!! He OWNS me!! Arghhh I earned all of this! and more!!! How DARE they TREAT Me like a second class citizen!!!!
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10-06-2014, 06:57 AM
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I would encourage people to simply be honest about everything. If i had DACA and HR came to me, i would say "Yeah, i have DACA, and no i'm not going to bitch if you decide not to hire me." I would then hope for the best and be grateful that the government is allowing me to even apply for jobs legally in the first place instead of sending my ass back to a country i don't even know anymore. If you're competent enough, then someone will hire you. For those of you that have had to support themselves for years and years like i have, it shouldn't be a problem. You figured it out then, so i'm sure you can figure it out now.

To the OP, do what you think is right for you. I'm not saying don't fight for what you believe is yours, but do it in a smart way. To me, i would imagine that's a bridge you don't want to burn if they treated you well.
There's a difference between telling people you have DACA and telling them you're "authorized to legally work in the US". If you tell them you have DACA, most likely they will start thinking adversely about you for being a fucking illegal who is only temporarily authorized to work. DACA is none of their business. This is exactly the type of advice I have given to my sister and she has diligently followed..guess what..she has been employed at a very good hospital which has a very active HR department inquiring about this shit frequently. The employer unless the federal or state govt has NO BUSINESS in knowing how you got your work permit or your immigration status. Stop being naive and thinking that people will sympathize for you if you tell them about "DACA".
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10-06-2014, 07:08 AM
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This reminded me of someone on here who started a thread asking if he/she could get unemployment benefits with DACA.

I was like WTF?! Are you serious!? lol
In the state of Connecticut Yes you can if you have worked a substantial amount of time. We need to start realizing that the existing labor laws equally apply to us. Just like "other" employees even employees who have work permits through DACA contribute to the trust fund (SS and Medicare) and federal and state unemployment. But if you still insist on making yourself a second class laborer go right ahead. I would not advice suing for the OP mainly because it was a contract job and it would really waste time and money but I'm willing to bet he has a very good claim if this was a serious full time job. Why the hell did they not ask about this BEFORE hiring him in the beginning?
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Earned it? Earned what?

You haven't earned shit. Regardless of what your DACA situation is, the government doesn't owe you shit. Yes, even if you think you contribute a lot to society and the economy. Again, my point still stands: the federal government didn't have to give you deferred action, but be grateful they did.

And i'm not being a "lay down". I'm simply stating the facts. You don't think i want to fix my status? Absolutely, but as immigration laws stand at the moment, i can't do shit. Even without status i have a much better job and am more responsible than 90% of my american friends who have college degrees and whatnot, and i still don't put myself in a position where i feel like this country owes me ANYTHING, because it doesn't.

I am by no means complaining about my life, at all. I can afford to live a perfectly comfortable life; even better than some of my american citizen friends, as crazy as that might sound, even without status.
The federal government didn't give me DACA, obama did. Keep making points against yourselves of why you don't deserve permanent status and tell me how that turns out for you.
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People need to get their heads straight in here. Stop fighting for your rights and don't sue a private employer because the federal government gave you an EAD! Yeah that makes some fucking sense. Half of the people here who don't think we have earned it are insecure about themselves because they haven't done something substantial in their life so far. I earned my shit and as long as I am legally present in this country, I better have every door open for me...eff outta here brah.
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Fight yours right today! Dont fight for employees taking advantage of farm workers making kids as young as 6 year old work for little to no money. Dont fight fight for people working in sweatshops or children in illegal child prostitution. Fight for your right to not have a contract renewed!!

Being illegal is your god protected right so defend it knowing you can justify your existence on an online forum!
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Fight yours right today! Dont fight for employees taking advantage of farm workers making kids as young as 6 year old work for little to no money. Dont fight fight for people working in sweatshops or children in illegal child prostitution. Fight for your right to not have a contract renewed!!

Being illegal is your god protected right so defend it knowing you can justify your existence on an online forum!
Aren't you between 24-26 years old? Your counter arguments, besides making no grammatical sense, come off as very childish. Maybe it's because you lack the words to express yourself?

Im not siding with the arguments being made here; my problem is with you. You make All dreamers look bad by your uneducated comments. Im all for debates, because thats the only way we can progress as human beings, but when you have 7,000++ comments that amount to gibberish and senseless drooling that adds no substance to topics I just really cringe.

I was trying to be nice before because I didn't want to be the guy picking on an individual with a clear disability but after you posted even more comments attacking others with little to no substance I felt compelled to do so.
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Lmao learn what's yours. Yes because this country begged. No no it cried it's cried it's heart out to you to remain here illegally for as much you did. It asked you come here for you to earn that. you're not even a citizen and already think yourself as one. I can arealdy imagine you waiting to apply for food stamps once you are a citizen because gosh darn you paid your taxes for that , right ?


Yeah sue the company I am done lots of other companies will hire after you.


I'm not suing any one...
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Hey man to some extent I do agree that we should be grateful but we are authorized to legally work and are fully entitled to be treated per the US and respective state employment/labor laws. Like I said before, after reading some posts like this, it seems to me the DACA beneficiaries themselves do not know how to explain and handle their own status. Again, when someone inquires about your status, you simply say that you are legally authorized to work! There's no need to become a superhero and start explaining DACA coz nobody gives a shit and in fact they will start thinking adversely about you and this is how HR starts firing people. And I have seen this question here a lot. Our status right now is as follows: LAWFUL PRESENCE/LAWFUL STATUS, end of story. If I was in OP's shoes, I would have told the HR in that meeting that I have permanent lawful status. Fuck them. Sometimes you have to lie and this is actually not really a lie, DACA is guaranteed for the next four years and most likely onwards as well because there's a good chance a Democrat will take over and who knows by then there will be CIR.
They were aware that I am legally authorized to work, they knew that the moment they hired me, but like I said-- She asked me what visa I was here on, was I just suppose to ignore that question, and hope they don't bother looking into it, anyway?
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There's a difference between telling people you have DACA and telling them you're "authorized to legally work in the US". If you tell them you have DACA, most likely they will start thinking adversely about you for being a fucking illegal who is only temporarily authorized to work. DACA is none of their business. This is exactly the type of advice I have given to my sister and she has diligently followed..guess what..she has been employed at a very good hospital which has a very active HR department inquiring about this shit frequently. The employer unless the federal or state govt has NO BUSINESS in knowing how you got your work permit or your immigration status. Stop being naive and thinking that people will sympathize for you if you tell them about "DACA".
Clearly you didn't understand my point. I never said i think employers will sympathize for you if you tell them you have DACA. In fact, i said i encourage everyone to be honest because that's the right way to go about things. If an employer doesn't want to hire you because of that, then move on. More than likely the reason they don't want to hire someone with DACA is simply because they don't want to deal with the same shit a lot of DACA recipients are dealing with regarding renewals.

You've gone off a tangent here. My advice to the OP was that he should be honest next time about having DACA from the beginning so that no one has to deal with any surprises down the road. You're telling him to do the exact opposite. Clearly the benefits from getting employment the way you're encouraging him to do so didn't outweigh the consequences for him.
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