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#51
10-23-2014, 08:22 PM
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I agree with 2Face 100% people with DUI shoudn't take their EAD for granted.
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10-23-2014, 09:34 PM
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Unbelievable what I just read.

A DIU is not a simple mistake that anyone can make. Are you guys aware that innocent people die because stupid people decide to drink and drive? I have a friend who passed away because of a stupid drunk driver. I find no sympathy towards people who drink and drive.

It’s something that ANYONE can avoid. Do you want to have some drinks or get all drunk? Easy, have you heard of lyft, cabs? You can call them if you’re drunk and they take you home without putting your life and others in risk. Is that too hard to do?

Dreamers who just decide to do this despite their situations do not deserve to find the sympathy that you guys showed to the OP. We have all the nation’s eyes upon us, to find every single step we take to talk bad about us, and still some dreamers have the audacity to mess up like this? Seriously? You guys only throw all the good work that some of us have done,. This is a slap in the face for those dreamers who started this movement but we’re left out because they aged out.

From the bottom of my heart to the OP, I hope this does affect you and you end up losing your DACA. We don’t need people like you within our community.
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Unbelievable what I just read.

A DIU is not a simple mistake that anyone can make. Are you guys aware that innocent people die because stupid people decide to drink and drive? I have a friend who passed away because of a stupid drunk driver. I find no sympathy towards people who drink and drive.

It’s something that ANYONE can avoid. Do you want to have some drinks or get all drunk? Easy, have you heard of lyft, cabs? You can call them if you’re drunk and they take you home without putting your life and others in risk. Is that too hard to do?

Dreamers who just decide to do this despite their situations do not deserve to find the sympathy that you guys showed to the OP. We have all the nation’s eyes upon us, to find every single step we take to talk bad about us, and still some dreamers have the audacity to mess up like this? Seriously? You guys only throw all the good work that some of us have done,. This is a slap in the face for those dreamers who started this movement but we’re left out because they aged out.

From the bottom of my heart to the OP, I hope this does affect you and you end up losing your DACA. We don’t need people like you within our community.
Hey look piano you finally have a friend.

I will repeat this again, as many others have pointed out, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE IS SAYING THAT DRINKING AND DRIVING IS A GOOD THING. We are not here to be judge, jury, and/or executioners, we already have those in place.

But seeing as you have already condemned this person from the bottom of your heart, how does that make you feel? Does that right the wrong? Is she automatically going to jail now? Deported? Is USCIS now going to automatically tear her application up because you have said so? The legal ramifications for her actions will be what they will be, no matter how you or I feel about it. She has that coming. Telling this person how much of a bad person and idiot she is will do absolutely nothing. Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe you can make this person feel so bad about what she did that she ultimately takes her life. As a "fellow dreamer" you should know that a lot of dreamers battle with those types of demons.
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Yeah, the losing DACA part went a bit too far, even I don't wish that to this person.
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Hey look piano you finally have a friend.

I will repeat this again, as many others have pointed out, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE IS SAYING THAT DRINKING AND DRIVING IS A GOOD THING. We are not here to be judge, jury, and/or executioners, we already have those in place.

But seeing as you have already condemned this person from the bottom of your heart, how does that make you feel? Does that right the wrong? Is she automatically going to jail now? Deported? Is USCIS now going to automatically tear her application up because you have said so? The legal ramifications for her actions will be what they will be, no matter how you or I feel about it. She has that coming. Telling this person how much of a bad person and idiot she is will do absolutely nothing. Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe you can make this person feel so bad about what she did that she ultimately takes her life. As a "fellow dreamer" you should know that a lot of dreamers battle with those types of demons.

Wait until you lose someone you love because of a stupid drunk driver and then you tell me how you feel about this kind of people. Until then, you'll have the legitimate right to tell me not to judge.
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Wait until you lose someone you love because of a stupid drunk driver and then you tell me how you feel about this kind of people. Until then, you'll have the legitimate right to tell me not to judge.
Is that suppose to humble me? Wishing that I lose a loved one to a horrible accident, nice.

But if you lost someone to such an accident, my condolences. The fact still stands that berating someone on the Internet will not fix anything. Im willing to bet that you're still as angry, and now we have another person (op) that feels like sh!t. And at the end of the day her punishment will be the same.
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Drinking and driving is not one of those things that's decided while one is drunk. People make really really poor judgments when they're drunk. Girls who know better end up hanging out with a guy who will likely rape them for instance. People get scammed and robbed while they're drinking, and of course there is drinking and driving.

What you need to do is have a plan and be aware of the consequences of drinking way before you go to the party so if you do ever get drunk, it's instinct not to drive or go home with "Big Leroy" and you're not left to try to be logical while intoxicated. Doing something instinctively is a lot easier than thinking it through while drunk. You should have it tatooed in your mind that "Holly shit, I'm drunk right now. There is no way I'm driving. " Better yet, plan to spend the night there ahead of time or have your sober buddy drive you or if you're a girl, be there with a female friend who will look out for you and prevent Big Leroy from confusing you while you're drunk.

For a lot of people, being drunk as hell and not driving is an easy decision, but where a lot of people get in danger is when they've only had a few drinks and have a buzz. That's where the danger of getting a DUI is. That's where your better judgement will get lost. You don't have to be completely drunk to be considered drunk by the law and losing your entire life. I'm not claiming to be an angel here, but if you drink you know when you're buzzed and you will try to justify things "Oh, I'm only a few blocks away...I'm fine...sure, I'm fine..." but you're not. Wait a couple of more hours at the party, eat a few more of those oven taquitos that are 100% sodium, and only when you're sure you're sober and you're not fooling yourself drive home.

And remember, if your American buddy fucks up and gets a DUI (assuming he doesn't kill anybody), the worst thing that will happen to him is he will lose his license for a year, pay a big surcharge and have a DUI on his record for ever that will keep him from getting a decent job. In your case, in all likelyhood, your ass will be deported in addition to anything else that happens to you and that's not even the worst case.
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Parameters should be set. All of you are all empathic with the OP, saying that people makes mistakes and that the OP already learned from that mistake and that she or he will not do it again.

You're sending the wrong message.

If you tolerate once, you'll have to tolerate forever.

In that case, let's all drink and drive. It doesn't matter, it won't have consequences because everybody makes mistakes.
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Parameters should be set. All of you are all empathic with the OP, saying that people makes mistakes and that the OP already learned from that mistake and that she or he will not do it again.

You're sending the wrong message.

If you tolerate once, you'll have to tolerate forever.

In that case, let's all drink and drive. It doesn't matter, it won't have consequences because everybody makes mistakes.
Show me ONE (1) comment that said that.

I've been in this discussion since the beginning and I obviously missed that part. That was not even implied.
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Is that suppose to humble me? Wishing that I lose a loved one to a horrible accident, nice.

But if you lost someone to such an accident, my condolences. The fact still stands that berating someone on the Internet will not fix anything. Im willing to bet that you're still as angry, and now we have another person (op) that feels like sh!t. And at the end of the day her punishment will be the same.
I don't wish you to lose a loved one in a horrible accident. I meant that if you were in my shoes, your thinking would be different. That's all.

I know it won't fix anything: it can't be fixed. I'm simply giving my opinion the same way you are. Because if at the end the consequences will be the same no matter what I say or no matter what you say, then why is she asking for advise here in the first place.

You got it?
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