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Drinking and driving is not one of those things that's decided while one is drunk. People make really really poor judgments when they're drunk. Girls who know better end up hanging out with a guy who will likely rape them for instance. People get scammed and robbed while they're drinking, and of course there is drinking and driving.

What you need to do is have a plan and be aware of the consequences of drinking way before you go to the party so if you do ever get drunk, it's instinct not to drive or go home with "Big Leroy" and you're not left to try to be logical while intoxicated. Doing something instinctively is a lot easier than thinking it through while drunk. You should have it tatooed in your mind that "Holly shit, I'm drunk right now. There is no way I'm driving. " Better yet, plan to spend the night there ahead of time or have your sober buddy drive you or if you're a girl, be there with a female friend who will look out for you and prevent Big Leroy from confusing you while you're drunk.

For a lot of people, being drunk as hell and not driving is an easy decision, but where a lot of people get in danger is when they've only had a few drinks and have a buzz. That's where the danger of getting a DUI is. That's where your better judgement will get lost. You don't have to be completely drunk to be considered drunk by the law and losing your entire life. I'm not claiming to be an angel here, but if you drink you know when you're buzzed and you will try to justify things "Oh, I'm only a few blocks away...I'm fine...sure, I'm fine..." but you're not. Wait a couple of more hours at the party, eat a few more of those oven taquitos that are 100% sodium, and only when you're sure you're sober and you're not fooling yourself drive home.

And remember, if your American buddy fucks up and gets a DUI (assuming he doesn't kill anybody), the worst thing that will happen to him is he will lose his license for a year, pay a big surcharge and have a DUI on his record for ever that will keep him from getting a decent job. In your case, in all likelyhood, your ass will be deported in addition to anything else that happens to you and that's not even the worst case.
This and not mention with chances of taking the life out of an innocent person only because you chose not think ahead and have something planned out. OP made a mistake, theres nothing to be done about that, OP acknowledges of what she did and I hope for the sake of an innocent person lifes, she doesn't do the stupid action of drinking and driving.


There is absolutely no excuse for drinking and driving, none whatsoever. At least no court has ever pardon someone for giving them a good excuse as to why they drove intoxicated.
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I don't wish you to lose a loved one in a horrible accident. I meant that if you were in my shoes, your thinking would be different. That's all.

I know it won't fix anything: it can't be fixed. I'm simply giving my opinion the same way you are. Because if at the end the consequences will be the same no matter what I say or no matter what you say, then why is she asking for advise here in the first place.

You got it?
Your opinion is your opinion and mine is, well, mine. But since, at least based on your harsh words, you're ok with lecturing people, I will say to you that the bible teaches forgiveness. Even if you're not religious, i think that American society revolves around the idea of second chances because after all we are humans. It's like Iamaman said above, people make stupid terrible decisions, its human nature. So again, I say to you go ahead and cast the first stone if you think you deserve to.
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Unbelievable what I just read.

A DIU is not a simple mistake that anyone can make. Are you guys aware that innocent people die because stupid people decide to drink and drive? I have a friend who passed away because of a stupid drunk driver. I find no sympathy towards people who drink and drive.

It’s something that ANYONE can avoid. Do you want to have some drinks or get all drunk? Easy, have you heard of lyft, cabs? You can call them if you’re drunk and they take you home without putting your life and others in risk. Is that too hard to do?

Dreamers who just decide to do this despite their situations do not deserve to find the sympathy that you guys showed to the OP. We have all the nation’s eyes upon us, to find every single step we take to talk bad about us, and still some dreamers have the audacity to mess up like this? Seriously? You guys only throw all the good work that some of us have done,. This is a slap in the face for those dreamers who started this movement but we’re left out because they aged out.

From the bottom of my heart to the OP, I hope this does affect you and you end up losing your DACA. We don’t need people like you within our community.
Wow. What an infomercial. mr freed, tell us how you really feel?
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Your opinion is your opinion and mine is, well, mine. But since, at least based on your harsh words, you're ok with lecturing people, I will say to you that the bible teaches forgiveness. Even if you're not religious, i think that American society revolves around the idea of second chances because after all we are humans. It's like Iamaman said above, people make stupid terrible decisions, its human nature. So again, I say to you go ahead and cast the first stone if you think you deserve to.

This people are above the teachings of the bible. It is clear they make no mistakes in life.
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This and not mention with chances of taking the life out of an innocent person only because you chose not think ahead and have something planned out. OP made a mistake, theres nothing to be done about that, OP acknowledges of what she did and I hope for the sake of an innocent person lifes, she doesn't do the stupid action of drinking and driving.


There is absolutely no excuse for drinking and driving, none whatsoever. At least no court has ever pardon someone for giving them a good excuse as to why they drove intoxicated.



Finally something that I agree with. The punishment will come, you can bet on it. So while this person waits for her ultimate judgement why try to break her down even more?

If you said this from the beginning and left it there piano, I would have totally agreed with you.
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Unbelievable what I just read.

A DIU is not a simple mistake that anyone can make. Are you guys aware that innocent people die because stupid people decide to drink and drive? I have a friend who passed away because of a stupid drunk driver. I find no sympathy towards people who drink and drive.

It’s something that ANYONE can avoid. Do you want to have some drinks or get all drunk? Easy, have you heard of lyft, cabs? You can call them if you’re drunk and they take you home without putting your life and others in risk. Is that too hard to do?

Dreamers who just decide to do this despite their situations do not deserve to find the sympathy that you guys showed to the OP. We have all the nation’s eyes upon us, to find every single step we take to talk bad about us, and still some dreamers have the audacity to mess up like this? Seriously? You guys only throw all the good work that some of us have done,. This is a slap in the face for those dreamers who started this movement but we’re left out because they aged out.

From the bottom of my heart to the OP, I hope this does affect you and you end up losing your DACA. We don’t need people like you within our community.
Thanks for wishing a complete stranger the worst. Thanks very much. I should just go kill myself? That's the solution. I'm sorry I ever even came to this community with my story. I hope none of you ever have to go through anything like this. and I'm really sorry about your loss. Im done.
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This people are above the teachings of the bible. It is clear they make no mistakes in life.
Not all mistakes are the same. If I drive and I crash into someone, its my mistake and its an accident as no sane person would crash into someone. If I drink and drive, and I crash into someone, its a mistake, but it isnt as bad as if I just drive and hit someone. We could justify the first scenario with a number of excuses. But what excuses would I have if I was drunk? Are these mistakes the same? No they are not the same. At least not in court they are not. People understand others mistakes when they are not as a result of being drunk. OP didn't even chose to do this mistake, how could she when she was intoxicated? Ratiocination tells us that under no circumstances one should not drink and drive. If you know you are going to drink, its your duty while your still not drunk to make sure you have someone taking you back home JUST in case you drink one too many. I Don't drink, but if I did drink, or when I feel I might fall into pressure from my co-workers, I make sure before I arrive to the drinking scene, to have someone drive me back home. Is doing this really that hard? As a friend its also your duty to prevent your friends and family members from drinking and driving, heck, even to strangers, you see someone drunk and getting their keys out, look for someone who might know them to try to stop them, or call the cops. I don't feel/think OP should have her DACA denied or be deported or be crucified but its a fundamental thing to understand no mistakes are the same and some have grave consequences. I will admit I went too far by calling her an alcoholic as I don't know her background regarding that matter.
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Is that suppose to humble me? Wishing that I lose a loved one to a horrible accident, nice.

But if you lost someone to such an accident, my condolences. The fact still stands that berating someone on the Internet will not fix anything. Im willing to bet that you're still as angry, and now we have another person (op) that feels like sh!t. And at the end of the day her punishment will be the same.
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Your opinion is your opinion and mine is, well, mine. But since, at least based on your harsh words, you're ok with lecturing people, I will say to you that the bible teaches forgiveness. Even if you're not religious, i think that American society revolves around the idea of second chances because after all we are humans. It's like Iamaman said above, people make stupid terrible decisions, its human nature. So again, I say to you go ahead and cast the first stone if you think you deserve to.
Are you serious? Bringing the bible into this conversation? I'm sorry but I'm done. I don't argue with people who use the bible to back up their reasoning.
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So is referring to the bible and having a belief also one of those things that you condemn? Im starting to think that you are bitter my friend. We all have frustrations but there's no need to lash out at others in order to make yourself feel better.

Oh and I also added that tidbit about second chances being a fundamental idea in America, especially in the legal system, just in case you had a problem with the bible reference. So there's no reason to run away from a good constructive argument.
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Oh and I also added that tidbit about second chances being a fundamental idea in America, especially in the legal system, just in case you had a problem with the bible reference. So there's no reason to run away from a good constructive argument.[/quote]

Believing in the bible is a matter of faith, but not a strong reference to build up your case. If you want to bring up the bible, that's ok I respect that. I'm just not going to have a conversation with a person who uses the bible in a try to make their argument more legit.

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