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The Final Recommendations For Immigration Actions Are Being Sent To Obama - Page 5

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Yep, it certainly changed everything.

Now a days as far as employment sponsorship goes, employers are required to obtain labor certification before they can hire you, which entails a series of obstacles. The DOL must certify to the USCIS that there are not sufficient U.S. workers able, willing, qualified and available to accept the job opportunity in the area of intended employment and that employment of the foreign worker will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of similarly employed U.S. workers.

This combined with 9/11 and the economic downturn in recent years make it pretty much impossible unless you possess skills of extraordinary magnitude, in which case you'd probably rather live somewhere better than the U.S. to begin with, or at least i would.
Bullshit. Only thing which stopped people from getting sponsored by employment was the fact that 245(i) wasn't extended. It expired on April 30th 2001, and while there were some talks of extending it a little before 9/11 they wouldn't went anywhere good anyways.

In regards to employment sponsorship and the DOL's job in it:
If audited, the employer needs to show that they did all the advertising correctly, and no one qualified showed up. If not audited then the DOL does it on the honor system. There can be a 99% unemployment, as long as no one qualified shows up during the 30 day advertisement period, and the following 30 day quiet period then you meet the requirements.

Before 2006 it was also possible to change one applicant for another for the same position with the same labor certification, same priority date, same labor petition. Currently it is still possible to downgrade a petition from EB-2 to EB-3, as is done fairly often with Chinese applicants (since EB-2 is more backlogged than EB-3).

DOL is more of a nuisance than anything else in the process since their job is pretty much just a formality that takes an extra 1-3 years (been waiting 2 years now on my step-father's labor certification to be approved by those lazy fucks, first they pissed away one year with wage determination and advertising, then they decided to audit us and have been sitting on it ever since ~5 months to go, I turned 21 in the meantime putting my eligibility in question). Even if someone would show up for the position, and DOL would reject the application, the company is under no requirement to hire that qualifying applicant. They can simply try again from scratch with slightly different requirements.

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It is beyond me how stupid some people are. Seriously bro go and educate yourself a little. CIR can't be "done" with a magic wand. It has to be passed in both chambers of Congress and signed into law.
There's a very simple way to get CIR done. Just misplace every single USCIS, INS, CBP, ICE, and EOIR record ever, or at least a significant portion of them, claim a hacker attack, or ISIS burned the building down, or whatever. Since it cannot then be proved one way or another if someone was a legal immigrant or not, the government would be forced to consider everyone as such.

Besides, republicans do illegal and unconstitutional shit every time they're in charge. I'm sure a little process where you go through a military building, take an oath and walk out the other side with a certificate of naturalization under section 329 of INA and a general discharge after serving the country for 15 minutes could well be done.
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If Obama use executive order, then CIR will NOT pass until 2016 or even more. And we already have DACA so we have nothing to worry about. We must get a green card!
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It is beyond me how stupid some people are. Seriously bro go and educate yourself a little. CIR can't be "done" with a magic wand. It has to be passed in both chambers of Congress and signed into law.

i second d motion. Let's just admit it that in the present Admin.,there is no Bipartisan support for immigration. CIR won't happen under Obama that's why he's acting now in reverence for the overwhelming votes he recvd during the 2nd term.
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DACA was announced what in June and took effect on August? And it was 5 years so yeah I can see it 2005. The longer it takes them to announce this the more time people have. I wonder how a this gonna work with DACA renewals? Man USCIS is going to get super busy if this actually happens. And I can't wait to see the resistance from hostile states.

Just to correct.Saw an article about timeline/length of stay.The article said since Pres. Obama will announce it this yr2014, then those who've been here since 2004 and down. Plus must have ties ie;married to a USC,greencard holder.Included also are farmers,parents of DACA recipients.
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Bullshit. Only thing which stopped people from getting sponsored by employment was the fact that 245(i) wasn't extended. It expired on April 30th 2001, and while there were some talks of extending it a little before 9/11 they wouldn't went anywhere good anyways.

In regards to employment sponsorship and the DOL's job in it:
If audited, the employer needs to show that they did all the advertising correctly, and no one qualified showed up. If not audited then the DOL does it on the honor system. There can be a 99% unemployment, as long as no one qualified shows up during the 30 day advertisement period, and the following 30 day quiet period then you meet the requirements.

Before 2006 it was also possible to change one applicant for another for the same position with the same labor certification, same priority date, same labor petition. Currently it is still possible to downgrade a petition from EB-2 to EB-3, as is done fairly often with Chinese applicants (since EB-2 is more backlogged than EB-3).

DOL is more of a nuisance than anything else in the process since their job is pretty much just a formality that takes an extra 1-3 years (been waiting 2 years now on my step-father's labor certification to be approved by those lazy fucks, first they pissed away one year with wage determination and advertising, then they decided to audit us and have been sitting on it ever since ~5 months to go, I turned 21 in the meantime putting my eligibility in question). Even if someone would show up for the position, and DOL would reject the application, the company is under no requirement to hire that qualifying applicant. They can simply try again from scratch with slightly different requirements.


There's a very simple way to get CIR done. Just misplace every single USCIS, INS, CBP, ICE, and EOIR record ever, or at least a significant portion of them, claim a hacker attack, or ISIS burned the building down, or whatever. Since it cannot then be proved one way or another if someone was a legal immigrant or not, the government would be forced to consider everyone as such.

Besides, republicans do illegal and unconstitutional shit every time they're in charge. I'm sure a little process where you go through a military building, take an oath and walk out the other side with a certificate of naturalization under section 329 of INA and a general discharge after serving the country for 15 minutes could well be done.
I should have been more clear about what i meant. I didn't mean to make it sound like 9/11 changed everything for employment sponsorship. I was just saying that it changed a lot in general as far as immigration policies go. My apologies for the confusion.
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I'm kind of worried about there being so much speculation over this EO. For DACA everything was super hush-hush, there were hardly any rumors, I swear I heard nothing until the day before.
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10 years? Then I´m out... That´s really bad. I just started to really built a life here after I moved from Nevada to L.A.
Why can´t they stick with what they suggested for CIR (I think it was before January 1st, 2011, right)?
I came in July 2010 as a Visa Overstay...
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10 years? Then I´m out... That´s really bad. I just started to really built a life here after I moved from Nevada to L.A.
Why can´t they stick with what they suggested for CIR (I think it was before January 1st, 2011, right)?
I came in July 2010 as a Visa Overstay...

It would really suck for individuals who came in here 2005 because an Article said 2004!
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And the article also said that if u meet the 10yr requirement,it doesn't end there bcoz u've got to have established family ties also ie; husband/wife of USC or greencard or a minor kid.So 2 requirements.
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10 year sounds fair to me but my ex girlfriend will be left out.

Why?ur ex GF entered pass 2004?
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