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Do any of you lost hope or don't care anymore for Dream Act - Page 2

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#11
03-18-2015, 03:29 PM
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It's a very sad reality for all of us...

I still don't understand what Obama was thinking... he's making it worse as if he is on our side. I think he's part of political football and politic drama.

I gave up too but let's keep our heads up... I know I can't get married because I did lie about my status to my girlfriend and most of the people that I meet.

This is depressing, but I just imagined that I was a single even 20 years from now..

BUT let's all stay positive
Why lie to your girlfriend about your status, every girl i was with accepted me with no status.
If she loves you she would not make a deal of it because think of it is it that bad of a deal honestly??
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03-18-2015, 04:29 PM
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Why lie to your girlfriend about your status, every girl i was with accepted me with no status.
If she loves you she would not make a deal of it because think of it is it that bad of a deal honestly??
I'll agree with you about not lying, but I can tell you first hand that as soon as you tell someone your situation, EVERYTHING changes.

For platonic friends, it won't change as much unless they're Republican, and they will in fact be supportive because it won't affect them directly - I mean worse case you get deported to some craphole of a country and they have to keep in touch with you via facebook or if you're getting deported to a nicer country, they'll have a good excuse to take a vacation and save money by crashing at your place. Not so bad.

If you are a guy however and you're dating a girl in her late 20's or 30's without low self esteem and someone with goals who wants to have a successful life (no offense to your girls), it makes a HUGE difference if she feels your status will get in the way of her success. If everybody is in college or whatever, they may still be an idealist, but once you get older, the women that you date want stability and can't handle fixer uppers.

There have been 2 cases for me where I met girls that I liked and cared about very much and they were really into me but as soon as this came up, they had to back away and I'm sure part of them felt bad about it. Not bad enough to not get married to someone else later.

One girl was telling me "I could see myself marrying you but I'm looking to get government clearance and if they see that I married an illegal, it would hurt that". I should mention that this girl had made some poor choices in who she dated before and after I met her. When I met her she had planned on moving out of the state because her ex had stolen a bunch of money from her and was stalking her. After me, she met a guy who was like 20 years older who was abusive. In her mind, someone who hit her and someone who stole from her were a lesser chance to take than someone who was undocumented.

Funny side story, I mentioned this to my lawyer after he told me why I still haven't got married. His suggestion was to meet less educated women.

So the very next girl I met was a doctor, a sub-specialist even and she was mixed race (half from my background) and I even knew her family and a couple of common friends. She was really into me too until she found this out and though she had no moral objections towards my situation, she said she wanted to start a family fast and couldn't wait 2 or 3 years for me to be on my feet - presumably the time it would take for us to date, get engaged, married, my paper work to go through, I start looking for real work, etc.

The weird part is, I don't really hold that big of a grudge against those girls and I do think they really did care about me. The type of girl I'd want to date would be smart enough to know when something will hold her back against what she wants in life. I would also hope they can see that I'm a good person and they might have to put those goals on hold for a year or so, but that's asking too much of someone sometimes.
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03-18-2015, 07:42 PM
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I'll agree with you about not lying, but I can tell you first hand that as soon as you tell someone your situation, EVERYTHING changes.

For platonic friends, it won't change as much unless they're Republican, and they will in fact be supportive because it won't affect them directly - I mean worse case you get deported to some craphole of a country and they have to keep in touch with you via facebook or if you're getting deported to a nicer country, they'll have a good excuse to take a vacation and save money by crashing at your place. Not so bad.

If you are a guy however and you're dating a girl in her late 20's or 30's without low self esteem and someone with goals who wants to have a successful life (no offense to your girls), it makes a HUGE difference if she feels your status will get in the way of her success. If everybody is in college or whatever, they may still be an idealist, but once you get older, the women that you date want stability and can't handle fixer uppers.

There have been 2 cases for me where I met girls that I liked and cared about very much and they were really into me but as soon as this came up, they had to back away and I'm sure part of them felt bad about it. Not bad enough to not get married to someone else later.

One girl was telling me "I could see myself marrying you but I'm looking to get government clearance and if they see that I married an illegal, it would hurt that". I should mention that this girl had made some poor choices in who she dated before and after I met her. When I met her she had planned on moving out of the state because her ex had stolen a bunch of money from her and was stalking her. After me, she met a guy who was like 20 years older who was abusive. In her mind, someone who hit her and someone who stole from her were a lesser chance to take than someone who was undocumented.

Funny side story, I mentioned this to my lawyer after he told me why I still haven't got married. His suggestion was to meet less educated women.

So the very next girl I met was a doctor, a sub-specialist even and she was mixed race (half from my background) and I even knew her family and a couple of common friends. She was really into me too until she found this out and though she had no moral objections towards my situation, she said she wanted to start a family fast and couldn't wait 2 or 3 years for me to be on my feet - presumably the time it would take for us to date, get engaged, married, my paper work to go through, I start looking for real work, etc.

The weird part is, I don't really hold that big of a grudge against those girls and I do think they really did care about me. The type of girl I'd want to date would be smart enough to know when something will hold her back against what she wants in life. I would also hope they can see that I'm a good person and they might have to put those goals on hold for a year or so, but that's asking too much of someone sometimes.
I strongly agree to both of you...

My girlfriend is very educated and she is going to be a bsn soon..
I was trying to talk to her before about this but he is really demanding and is very conservative...

She always say how she hates Obama and all illegal should head home.
I lied to see what kind of action I will get and told her that my sister is the one who is illegal (true, but she's getting sponsored thru 245i)

I saw the change in her expression.

I pretty much know what will happen when she finds out and I did broke her with once but she was very angry and sad at the same time. I was afraid what was going to happen...

somehow i got back with her... but now I feel that I can tell her but I feel so bad about myself about lying... tha'ts why I still can't tell her til this day...

She has pride unlike most women out there and she just hate everything about Democracy... but she's very loving.. and i think that's why she doesn't want ME to be that undocumented immigrant.
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03-18-2015, 08:12 PM
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Dam both of your stories suprise me, As for me i would never even make a girl my girlfriend if she never accept me for all of me period. While dating girls would find out i was undocumented and did not bother them at all. i had no car, no license, and they would come and pick me up at my home lol also was hard for me to look for a job around my age at 18 dint have money these girls would even pay and yes i felt bad but they understood my situation am glad i always met very good caring women in my lifetime. As for my wife she is in the U.S army and works in sales. She was always supportive about my situation since we started dating.
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03-18-2015, 10:16 PM
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I strongly agree to both of you...

My girlfriend is very educated and she is going to be a bsn soon..
I was trying to talk to her before about this but he is really demanding and is very conservative...

She always say how she hates Obama and all illegal should head home.
I lied to see what kind of action I will get and told her that my sister is the one who is illegal (true, but she's getting sponsored thru 245i)

I saw the change in her expression.

I pretty much know what will happen when she finds out and I did broke her with once but she was very angry and sad at the same time. I was afraid what was going to happen...

somehow i got back with her... but now I feel that I can tell her but I feel so bad about myself about lying... tha'ts why I still can't tell her til this day...

She has pride unlike most women out there and she just hate everything about Democracy... but she's very loving.. and i think that's why she doesn't want ME to be that undocumented immigrant.
Dude, if she's saying she hates illegals, that's not a good sign. I mean it'd be funny to see the look on her face when she finds out the guy who's been giving it to her good every night is one of those Eyelegals that she hates so much, but it's still kind of risky. I dated a girl who was a bit country - long story, I met her in her early 20's and then our paths crossed again like 8 years later and she had turned really country and would say racist things about Obama. I brushed it off at first but it occurred to me that if that's what she says about black people, that sort of thing probably flies free in our family and I'll never get accepted.
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03-19-2015, 11:45 AM
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Dam both of your stories suprise me, As for me i would never even make a girl my girlfriend if she never accept me for all of me period. While dating girls would find out i was undocumented and did not bother them at all. i had no car, no license, and they would come and pick me up at my home lol also was hard for me to look for a job around my age at 18 dint have money these girls would even pay and yes i felt bad but they understood my situation am glad i always met very good caring women in my lifetime. As for my wife she is in the U.S army and works in sales. She was always supportive about my situation since we started dating.

If I start a new relationship with someone else now, I would be eager to tell the truth... but I can't take things back now...

She did say one time that she'd be mad if I was illegal but she said she'll get me green card and marry me... still... i feel guilty about it...

I want to get myself green card on my own then see where that takes me...
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03-19-2015, 12:02 PM
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One thing I learnt over the years is to not trust this country.

I don't trust them for my freedom.
I don't trust them for my and my family's well-being.
I don't trust them with money.

I just don't! Let alone the decision of my immigration status here. I really had hope for Obama and he has done a really great job with DACA. I just don't trust my destiny in their hands.
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03-19-2015, 04:52 PM
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One thing I learnt over the years is to not trust this country.

I don't trust them for my freedom.
I don't trust them for my and my family's well-being.
I don't trust them with money.

I just don't! Let alone the decision of my immigration status here. I really had hope for Obama and he has done a really great job with DACA. I just don't trust my destiny in their hands.
Sooooo why are you still here? If I didn't have some trust or hope, I would have Mitt Romney'd myself a long time ago.
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03-20-2015, 12:49 AM
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CIR will pass 3-4 years later. hopefully
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03-21-2015, 12:05 PM
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Sooooo why are you still here? If I didn't have some trust or hope, I would have Mitt Romney'd myself a long time ago.
I totally understand what he is saying...

I was hopeless and pessimistic to this country... and that's how it is if we are all undocumented...

and let's all hope that CIR or dream act pass within 2 years... let's all pray..
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