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Yes, sorry for that. not the IRS, it's the Social Security Administration Office.

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The article mentions that the new rules will apply if your name or social security number has been flagged by the Social Security Administration through the use of W-2 forms.
So...What about the people who file taxes under the ITIN?? but work with a fake SS#. Does it still apply?
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I love the IRS. They don't care whether you are legal or not, just pay taxes. If you are not eligible for a SSN then get a ITIN.

Basically saying, "We know you are not suppose to be here, We know you are not suppose to work, but since you are working PAY taxes"
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[q] I love the IRS. They don't care whether you are legal or not, just pay taxes. If you are not eligible for a SSN then get a ITIN.

Basically saying, "We know you are not supposed to be here, We know you are not supposed to work, but since you are working PAY taxes"

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So...What about the people who file taxes under the ITIN?? but work with a fake SS#. Does it still apply?
Strange question since if you have an ITIN number you don't need a Social security number.If a person worked with a fake SS# & place it on their W-2 they could most likely be fired under this new rule since some employers have mentioned they do not want to pay the fines.It looks like the rule will dictate that if there is ANY discrepancy in your name &/or your SS number then it will be mandatory for the employer to fire the employee or the company doing business could face stiff fines.

This new article mentions that millions of these no-match letters are sent out to employers every year.This will not only be a problem for the undocumented but also U.S. citizens as well.Interestingly,the article also mentions that Dream act & Agjobs might have amassed enough support for passage.
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There is also significant bipartisan support for the AgJOBS bill-a proposal to broaden and normalize the guestworker visa program for agricultural workers, the majority of which are illegal aliens-and the DREAM Act, a program to give citizenship to illegal immigrants who entered the country as minors and attend college or join the military, currently existing as an amendment to military authorization legislation that the Senate will consider in September. Both are long-debated measures that have been considered by several Congresses, and may have amassed enough support for passage.

None of these measures will likely move forward before fall, as the Senate heads into its customary August recess this weekend.

But in the absence of legislative action, hotly anticipated administrative changes may bring a new wave of immigration concerns to bear before the summer in out.

The Department of Homeland Security is expected in the next few days to announce a rule making it mandatory for employers to fire illegal immigrants-or face stiff penalties.

Under the new rule, employees would have a limited window of opportunity to contact the Social Security Administration when notified about discrepancies or errors in their tax records. If they do not, they automatically lose their jobs.

Presently, the Social Security Administration sends out several million “no match” letters to employees, diverting these letters to employers as well if there is no response. But in a system where there are errors in an estimated 17.8 million records-including the records of 12.7 million U.S. citizens-several business are expressing concern that the rule might result in several undue terminations.
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Ianus, I ready enjoy your work and research on Dream and Immigration overall.
I'm going to miss ya when this undocumented status ends for all of us.
I'm always staying positive even when I dont see a light in the tunnel.
Dream will pass!
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Ianus, I ready enjoy your work and research on Dream and Immigration overall.
I'm going to miss ya when this undocumented status ends for all of us.
I'm always staying positive even when I dont see a light in the tunnel.
Dream will pass!
Ditto.
I think DREAM WILL PASS!!!!!

While calling senators yesterday, I could hear a lot of optimism from staffers, specially from Specter's office.
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[q] I love the IRS. They don't care whether you are legal or not, just pay taxes. If you are not eligible for a SSN then get a ITIN.

Basically saying, "We know you are not supposed to be here, We know you are not supposed to work, but since you are working PAY taxes"

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There are only two things certain in this world, death and taxes.
You forgot one more: death, taxes, & CHANGE
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wait so are all in trouble or just people with fake ss numbers? If someone overstayed their visa and still has their legal ss, could they be possible fired?
I think it's just the people who is working with fake SS#'s. Because just after the fiscal year..IRS sends letters to those whose numbers are not matching their database. They do that to post their current earnings to the right person. Now with that new enforcement they will make employers fix every issue, if not, the employee has to leave the company.
Wow. This happened to me. I had to quit my job last week.
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wait so are all in trouble or just people with fake ss numbers? If someone overstayed their visa and still has their legal ss, could they be possible fired?
I think it's just the people who is working with fake SS#'s. Because just after the fiscal year..IRS sends letters to those whose numbers are not matching their database. They do that to post their current earnings to the right person. Now with that new enforcement they will make employers fix every issue, if not, the employee has to leave the company.
Wow. This happened to me. I had to quit my job last week.
Why did you quit? this hasen't taken effect yet!. That was just an article and they don't know if they are going to do that because many companies are complaining that they are taking up over gov's job.
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Why did you quit? this hasen't taken effect yet!. That was just an article and they don't know if they are going to do that because many companies are complaining that they are taking up over gov's job.

Wrong.


I got one of these letters from the Social Security Admin. and it stated that I MUST go to the offices to fix whatever was wrong with my number. I couldn't go for obvious reasons, but the letter stated that my employment had to be terminated in about 14 or so days if I do not go to the office to fix it. I have the letter laying around somewhere. This is in effect, and I think always has been though they're getting stricter with it now it seems.
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