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07-15-2015, 09:46 PM
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And where is YOUR law degree? You and the other fellow on here keep quoting the two or three guys you've heard supporting this and running away with it and ignoring every other lawyer and judge.

You guys are to the DAPA/Extended DACA lawsuit what Jenny McCarthy is to vaccinations or what Republicans are to Global Warming. There are also many many scientists who say global warming is happening and vaccines save lives, but there are still a handful of scientists and doctors who deny those things. That's not good company.

Oh and again, your story is from February.
I can understand your frustration. Still, I think you're out of line. You can say the article is full of mistakes and point to the fact that it is not the same to offer advice than to be the one responsible. I am sorry if I offend you but to there is no point at throwing rotten tomatoes at each other.

I do appreciate the articles because it is my only reason to be here. Even with all the sources I read, there are very few articles about the issue that are more technical than for the general public. I don't want to read ten articles about how cold the judges are to the Department of Justice or how this is at peril. I can hear it myself listening to the hearings.

I do give the Department of Justice the benefit of making the final decision on how to handle this. However, if it were me, I would love all the educated opinions of capable lawyers. To solve an issue requires very careful thinking for long, hard hours. I can recall the NPR article but one person needed to find out which old picture was taken first on a set of two. It took three experts with conflicting arguments, one insidious researcher and a photoshop expert to see both images for more than four hours to realized this simple truth. If that is the deal with something as simple as two old timmey pics, imagine how hard it is to solve our issue.

Which means that, as long as the argument is sound, every opinion should take a consideration. Furthermore, it is not like Obama and the Department of Justice are reading this site and using our comments for legal advice or using them to boots their ego. A long time ago, I stop using this site to promote anything and only complain if someone is not sufficiently enlighten. You're one of the good people but some people sound worst than the dumbest pundit in Fox News. Take Care and don't worry. Eventually we'll die and none of this will matter.
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07-15-2015, 10:59 PM
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Anger management classes?
I addressed your copy and paste of this lawyer's qualifications and pointed out the fallacy of your logic that just because this guy is a lawyer, he is right and more importantly that you were latching on to his opinion and ignoring others'.

In my experience it's usually the right wingers who take extremely complicated subjects and dynamics and try to pass them off as simple, often with an scape goat. "the economy is not complicated! It's the immigrants' fault!" as an example.

Now you guys are trying to do the same thing with a very complicated issue and saying "Pfft, it's so easy, Obama is an idiot...he should just do what this one lawyer is saying he should do. What a moron! I don't understand why he's not doing what this one lawyer is saying! I'm so superior to all you other idiots!".

If you guys feel so strongly that it's so easy, pay this lawyer and take legal action. I mean it's so easy, right?
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I can understand your frustration. Still, I think you're out of line. You can say the article is full of mistakes and point to the fact that it is not the same to offer advice than to be the one responsible. I am sorry if I offend you but to there is no point at throwing rotten tomatoes at each other.

I do appreciate the articles because it is my only reason to be here. Even with all the sources I read, there are very few articles about the issue that are more technical than for the general public. I don't want to read ten articles about how cold the judges are to the Department of Justice or how this is at peril. I can hear it myself listening to the hearings.

I do give the Department of Justice the benefit of making the final decision on how to handle this. However, if it were me, I would love all the educated opinions of capable lawyers. To solve an issue requires very careful thinking for long, hard hours. I can recall the NPR article but one person needed to find out which old picture was taken first on a set of two. It took three experts with conflicting arguments, one insidious researcher and a photoshop expert to see both images for more than four hours to realized this simple truth. If that is the deal with something as simple as two old timmey pics, imagine how hard it is to solve our issue.

Which means that, as long as the argument is sound, every opinion should take a consideration. Furthermore, it is not like Obama and the Department of Justice are reading this site and using our comments for legal advice or using them to boots their ego. A long time ago, I stop using this site to promote anything and only complain if someone is not sufficiently enlighten. You're one of the good people but some people sound worst than the dumbest pundit in Fox News. Take Care and don't worry. Eventually we'll die and none of this will matter.

I'm not going to tolerate DAPA truthers.
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07-15-2015, 11:40 PM
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I really don't know what you are talking about.I think Obama is one of the most successful presidents.
Stimulus,health care,Wall Street reform,trade deal,Cuba,gay marriage,Iran deal.
On immigration it was actually his Administration suggesting a few months ago partial implementation of DACA/DAPA.Don't take everything so seriously.Have a great day.
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So what's next for DACA expansion? When is the next hearing?
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So what's next for DACA expansion? When is the next hearing?
DACA_IR-DA, the more I read your questions, the more fond I am of them. Because no matter where the conversation goes, you always bring it back to what really matters. Keep up the good job.
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DACA_IR-DA, the more I read your questions, the more fond I am of them. Because no matter where the conversation goes, you always bring it back to what really matters. Keep up the good job.
Don't forget how he almost put the likes of Glenn Beck out of job by being the most anti-immigrant person on the planet when the original DACA excluded him.
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07-17-2015, 01:50 AM
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Any new news for DACA Expansion?
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07-17-2015, 09:01 PM
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Don't forget how he almost put the likes of Glenn Beck out of job by being the most anti-immigrant person on the planet when the original DACA excluded him.
LMAO! I wasn't reading posts at the time. Thanks for the hint.

In a totally different matter, I was in phone conference. Though more than one source agreed that the judges were skeptical when the lawyer representing Texas stated that the President's actions were unlawful. Still, I don't think the expert had his hopes up on winning this thing.
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