In-state tuition "Subsidy" is groundless

Many of the opposers, argue that the Dream ACT will grant illegal students the privilege of attending college at in-state tuition fees "subsidized" by tax-payers. That's a groundless argument.

First of all, let's look at Dream Act beneficiaries. Teenagers and adults who were brought here as kids, either legally or illegally, and who have since adopted America as their home and American culture as their own. Most of them never had an OPPORTUNITY to qualify for a visa or adjust their status. They were dependent on their parents. Once they became adults, they could not adjust their status by any means. They grew up here, and this is their only home.

The Dream Act will grant in-state tuition to these students. But it will not be for all states! This is the point that they always leave out!. A student that lives and has graduated a Florida High school, will not be eligible for in-state tuition, let's say, Oklahoma. He will be eligible for Florida in-state tuition.

The opposers may say "But they'll be subsidized by tax-payers!" Yes, but the beneficiaries WILL BECOME TAXPAYERS THEMSELVES! Their parents may o may not be taxpayers due to their possible illegal status. But Dream ACT students will be professionals and servicemen within two years and TAXPAYERS. And this is a GUARANTEE!!!!

Why?

BECAUSE THE DREAM ACT IS NOT AMNESTY.
IT IS NOT A PARDON.
IT'S A CHANCE, AN OPPORTUNITY.

The reason why it's a guarantee that they will become professionals and taxpayers (therefore paying the in-state tuition subsidy) is because WE WANT TO LIVE HERE, and if we don't become professionals (and taxpayers) then the Dream act expires in 6 years and we have to LEAVE.

The conditional aspect of the DREAM ACT bars it from being an amnesty.

This is the reason why the in-state tuition "subsidy" argument is Groundless.

I rest my case.

As far as I know, these are the arguments made against DREAM (of course I disagree, but we have to know their side to properly debate against them)

Arguments against:

Amnesty for "lawbreakers"
DREAM takes a seat "away" from citizens by giving a spot to undocumented people
Gives taxpayer funded instate tuition to undocumented kids whose parents may or may not have paid taxes
Encourages more illegal immigration by offering "rewards"

I am willing to write essays to argue against those points. I am also thinking in putting myself in contact with several Journalists that seem to support our cause.

DO IT!!!!!!

You know the only thing I can say about this bill it's that it's fair for us students, I mean we were here as kids not knowing what our parents did was wrong, Why should we get punished? This bill it's fair because it only gives 6 years of residence and you have to become something or else your out, Either get a degree in College or Join the Military, I agree 100% with you lutier2008 It's not amnesty We have to work hard through college or the military to get the amnesty! It's not just given like that, Like you said It's an opportunity to us students from around the world! Not just Mexicans which they think it's the majority which it's not!

I hate people that oppose this as well because They Say that they'll be paying us through college by their taxes But won't we be paying taxes and college as well they also think that college and university will be free for us if this is passed NO we still have to get jobs to help us get through college!!!, they also say that their kids would not be able to enroll because spaces in classrooms would be taken by us SO what are they trying to say that They are afraid of us being so smart that we will take their place, I also only hear and see people write about this and they talk and talk about how taxes this and that BUT what about the military part They don't say nothing about that!!!
Because they have nothing to say! They wouldn't be paying for us to get in the Army with their taxes will They? No We just want an opportunity that's all! we are not asking for them to give us amnesty right away we have to work for it! and it's fair it's more than fair!

It is hard for me to actually look at these arguments. They often switch from legal, to justice to economics without separate arguments from each. It is hard for me to give an argument that it is not debastating and that will result in a threat to violence. I actually made an argument in a newpaper for the aid of the Gomez brothers. The response, although well written was barely and argument.
Children, under the law are not treated as adults. As I post in another forum, if a mother makes her minor child participants of her crime, they will not get the same sentence as the mother. If a child under current law is treated the same as adults, the law is unfair and must be change. A law can be unfair, segregation is a good example of a set of laws that were unjust. Thus, they must be change.
Do you really want my real response? Tough luck. Some of these kids do not have the same economical, legal and socio-cultural advantages. Now, despite all, they manage to be the top fish. Try harder. Ok, we cannot say that. 65,000 of 2,5 million is less than 3%. It is hardly a number that will destroy the American educational system. Even if the number increases to 100,000, we are talking about 3% of the total population. This wil be the worst case scenario. Many will join the army instead.
Education was not a birth right. For many years, it was considered stupid to pay for someone else child's education. Very low income families do not pay taxes, even if they are citizens. Yet, they are the very reason why public universities and community colleges were created. A family with lots of money pay high taxes but can afford the best education to their kids. Low income famlies cannot. It was a way to level the field and allow low income individuals to become high income individuals. Furthermore, high income individuals not only pay more taxes, they are involved more in their communites. They also foment the economy by spending more, which created more jobs and creates even more wealth.
Why everybody assumes that people want to be undocumented immigrants? It is not easy to be an undocumented student. People come to this country to work, not to get an education. They bring their kids because they want to have a family and they cannot leave the country to visit them. Thanks 1994 act. If low skill workers had permits to come and go as they please, there will not bring their kids. Higer education is in many countries a pleasure of the upper classes. They won't came into the US ilegally because they can afford all the process to enter legally. Low skills immigrants have other priorities, like putting food in the table than education. They came to work, not to study. Let's say for argument sake that the undocumented student populatio doubles that still is going to be 6% of the total population hardly a number to shake the nation. On the other hand, read the Dream Act. They have to be in the country for six years, show good moral character and join the army or go to college. The truth is many will chose the army over college. Thus, most of the arguments have no merits.
This is all I can think of. I am probably worng, so correct me please. If I think of something else, i'll post it.

What are the chances the Bush will plead Amnesty in his last days of office now that hes not gonna run for office again and elections will be over it wont affect his wife Laura from running.

Although calling senators and writing emails are important but i also feel that we need to attack back at many forms who oppose against us. Ive had many arguments via email with those who oppose us.

Writing letters to your local newspaper to editors are also a way to gain publicity and alert your local neighborhood.

Let's just say we have a better chance of getting hit by an asteroid in the next 6 months than anything being pass by Bush, that's just reality

I've been thinking of doing the same thing. I was going to send something to the Houston Chronicle to start off, but maybe we can exchange ideas or something, feel free to PM me. I just feel that someone needs to make an intelligent, educated defense of Dream and put the "they took our jobs and use our tax money" half-wits in their places.

also many parents of dreamers pay taxes... my parents do and other people i know as well.