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#22001
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There's not only adults but plenty of people whom aged out of DACA yet were brought to the U.S as children as well. Sure the adults made the decision to come here illegally, but they should be forgiven if they have been here for a long time. Remember without the adults a large amount of the DACA population wouldn't be here.
Invalid argument, you can't forgive people just because. Life sucks and it's unfair, but you can't just give amnesty to people who willingly break the law. Adults who enter any country illegally know that deportation may/can/will happen, so why exactly should we feel bad for them? If you play with fire and you get burnt no one to blame but yourself, adult who enters a country illegally and get deported it's their fault, can't blame politicians or broken immigration law, they knew better. We feel bad for illegal aliens, but why? They knew they will get no legal jobs here, they knew they may get deported, they knew all the problems they will be facing yet they pursued it, and sadly they should get nothing. Life is unfair, but that's how immigration system should work, you enter any country illegally you should get deported, welcome to reality.
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Invalid argument, you can't forgive people just because. Life sucks and it's unfair, but you can't just give amnesty to people who willingly break the law. Adults who enter any country illegally know that deportation may/can/will happen, so why exactly should we feel bad for them? If you play with fire and you get burnt no one to blame but yourself, adult who enters a country illegally and get deported it's their fault, can't blame politicians or broken immigration law, they knew better. We feel bad for illegal aliens, but why? They knew they will get no legal jobs here, they knew they may get deported, they knew all the problems they will be facing yet they pursued it, and sadly they should get nothing. Life is unfair, but that's how immigration system should work, you enter any country illegally you should get deported, welcome to reality.
There's 11 million people in this country whom are undocumented. There's pretty much 3 things that can be done. 1 . Deport all 11 million and problem solved? 2. Allow them to stay and be granted work permits as long as they are of good moral character. Or 3. Do nothing? Look they are already here, keeping them in the shadows would not help the economy it would only continue the immigration problem. I'm surprised a DACA recipient would ever be against this. Kind of ironic.
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There's 11 million people in this country whom are undocumented. There's pretty much 3 things that can be done. 1 . Deport all 11 million and problem solved? 2. Allow them to stay and be granted work permits as long as they are of good moral character. Or 3. Do nothing? Look they are already here, keeping them in the shadows would not help the economy it would only continue the immigration problem. I'm surprised a DACA recipient would ever be against this. Kind of ironic.
1. Deporting them would be a part of the solution, but it's unreal to do.
2. Allowing them to work and add 11 million people into workforce to already 80 million unemployed CITIZENS WHO ARE BORN HERE or LEGALLY RESIDE AND CAN WORK is not fair to them is it?
3. Doing nothing is not an option, however there are few ways to solve this problem, we just need someone who will actually do it.

You have to look at this as an American and tangible point of view. You cannot amnesty people who willingly break the law, it's unfair to the people who enter legally or to US citizens. It's not economically viable, nor it is viable at this time or ever.

It's like feeding a stray cat, you feed one, more will show up and s*** all over your yard and ruin it. Same here, you start giving them amnesty more will come in, take the jobs from Americans, who in turn will go on unemployment/welfare, start sucking the economy dry, which by the way I should mention we are 18 trillion dollars in debt, and have 80 million people unemployed.

Don't get me wrong, I love idea of giving amnesty to people who come from bad places and lived here long enough, however when you look reality in the eyes, world does not work like that, and we have to do something, but giving people amnesty unfortunately is not it.
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1. Deporting them would be a part of the solution, but it's unreal to do.
2. Allowing them to work and add 11 million people into workforce to already 80 million unemployed CITIZENS WHO ARE BORN HERE or LEGALLY RESIDE AND CAN WORK is not fair to them is it?
3. Doing nothing is not an option, however there are few ways to solve this problem, we just need someone who will actually do it.

You have to look at this as an American and tangible point of view. You cannot amnesty people who willingly break the law, it's unfair to the people who enter legally or to US citizens. It's not economically viable, nor it is viable at this time or ever.

It's like feeding a stray cat, you feed one, more will show up and s*** all over your yard and ruin it. Same here, you start giving them amnesty more will come in, take the jobs from Americans, who in turn will go on unemployment/welfare, start sucking the economy dry, which by the way I should mention we are 18 trillion dollars in debt, and have 80 million people unemployed.

Don't get me wrong, I love idea of giving amnesty to people who come from bad places and lived here long enough, however when you look reality in the eyes, world does not work like that, and we have to do something, but giving people amnesty unfortunately is not it.

First off, I just want to say that I respect everyone's opinion. With that said, I was t00 brought to the U.S illegally by my parents when I was a kid. I understand what you mean when it comes to punishing people who break the law and yes logically that would the correct thing to do. But you also have to look at the other side of the coin and realize that not every has the same economic resources to go through the whole process. A lot of this people risked their lives to come to the U.S , most of them were families who's desperation and necessity to provide for their loved ones became too big and that is the reason that they decided to risk their own lives and their families. Because no parent in their right mind would ever put their own family in such great danger unless they absolutely had no other choice. Let me ask you wouldn't you've done the same??

Furthermore, You said something about Illegals taking jobs from U.S citizens or people who have the right to work here. You also said that there's already 80 million on the workforce and another 11 million if you count the Illegals. I never really understood how that came to about because the way I see it, is 2 individuals go to an interview one who is documented and the other who is not and from what I remember the employer makes the decision as to who to hire. Now, I know there's a good chance you might rebuttal with the reason is because Illegals work for less or Illegals do not pay taxes etc. Believe it or not, the U.S was and continues to be founded on cheap labor. For example, your clothes, your electronics, even the technical support for almost all electronic devices is on cheap labor and that because we outsource for everything. Are your really going to tell me that everything you buy is made 100% in the U.S. As far as Illegals not paying taxes and receiving government benefits will that ain't true. Most Illegals who work, work for companies who pay them with a company check for the exception of a few who might work for someone independently and get paid cash. But most of Illegals do their taxes using their IRS number because they don't want to call any unwanted attention and it's rare if they ever get any kind of return. Also, from what I remember Illegals can't get any kind of benefits from the U.S and unless you have a kid who was born here and even then most won't ask for any kind of government help because they are too afraid that they might get deported.
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First off, I just want to say that I respect everyone's opinion. With that said, I was t00 brought to the U.S illegally by my parents when I was a kid. I understand what you mean when it comes to punishing people who break the law and yes logically that would the correct thing to do. But you also have to look at the other side of the coin and realize that not every has the same economic resources to go through the whole process. A lot of this people risked their lives to come to the U.S , most of them were families who's desperation and necessity to provide for their loved ones became too big and that is the reason that they decided to risk their own lives and their families. Because no parent in their right mind would ever put their own family in such great danger unless they absolutely had no other choice. Let me ask you wouldn't you've done the same??

Furthermore, You said something about Illegals taking jobs from U.S citizens or people who have the right to work here. You also said that there's already 80 million on the workforce and another 11 million if you count the Illegals. I never really understood how that came to about because the way I see it, is 2 individuals go to an interview one who is documented and the other who is not and from what I remember the employer makes the decision as to who to hire. Now, I know there's a good chance you might rebuttal with the reason is because Illegals work for less or Illegals do not pay taxes etc. Believe it or not, the U.S was and continues to be founded on cheap labor. For example, your clothes, your electronics, even the technical support for almost all electronic devices is on cheap labor and that because we outsource for everything. Are your really going to tell me that everything you buy is made 100% in the U.S. As far as Illegals not paying taxes and receiving government benefits will that ain't true. Most Illegals who work, work for companies who pay them with a company check for the exception of a few who might work for someone independently and get paid cash. But most of Illegals do their taxes using their IRS number because they don't want to call any unwanted attention and it's rare if they ever get any kind of return. Also, from what I remember Illegals can't get any kind of benefits from the U.S and unless you have a kid who was born here and even then most won't ask for any kind of government help because they are too afraid that they might get deported.
1. If someone that desperate file for asylum when entering the states.
2. When it comes to illegals taking jobs I was talking about if we give them work permits.
3. The rest of your statement is irrelevant because none of them have a good reason to why we should get anything.
4. It doesn't matter whether someone is risking their lives. They know risks, they know consequences they go with it anyways. Risking your life to break the law doesn't excuse someone from penalty.
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1. If someone that desperate file for asylum when entering the states.
2. When it comes to illegals taking jobs I was talking about if we give them work permits.
3. The rest of your statement is irrelevant because none of them have a good reason to why we should get anything.
4. It doesn't matter whether someone is risking their lives. They know risks, they know consequences they go with it anyways. Risking your life to break the law doesn't excuse someone from penalty.
It seems like AlexMo i one of those wetbacks whose lost his pride for his race and the sacrifices his parents went through for him to even have the privilidge to tackle the american dream. The true definition of a "pocho" in my entitled opinion!

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Congratulations Pervs! I got my EAD card today in the mail you should too sometime this week or next week .
I truly hope the Supreme Court rules in our favor and the millions of others out there whom would benefit from this program. Thank you Obama.
I hope so too! I must admit seeing an expiration on the EAD is nerve wracking since anything could happen in 2 years with the election.

Did you get your social yet? My letters came on Monday and my EAD came today! I'm wondering how long I have to wait to go to the social office and what I should bring.
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I hope so too! I must admit seeing an expiration on the EAD is nerve wracking since anything could happen in 2 years with the election.

Did you get your social yet? My letters came on Monday and my EAD came today! I'm wondering how long I have to wait to go to the social office and what I should bring.
If Trump is elected we'll get green cards, if cruz probably nothing till he's out, I'm 99% sure from his previews statements we'll get grandfathered in. Rubio is a dangerous guy I have nothing on him, he seems to want to really deport us.

Grats on your EAD. I got my license in TX last week.
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It seems like AlexMo i one of those wetbacks whose lost his pride for his race and the sacrifices his parents went through for him to even have the privilidge to tackle the american dream. The true definition of a "pocho" in my entitled opinion!

First Application:
9/29/14 - nsc
10/22/14 - Bio
6/14/15 - rfe
8/6/15 - DENIED
(High school not accredited)

Second Application:
12.23.15 - wac
1.25.16 - Bio
No i did not lose my pride for my "race and heritage" I just acknowledge that I am illegal and I have to respect this country's laws and policies, all I can do is make friends and have them stand by my side because they are US citizens and have a say in this country. You seem to feel like you're entitled to something in this country, which you aren't. You are illegal and you have no rights in this country, be glad that you have the ones you're given, either respect the country and its laws or leave it's as simple as that.

If I want to live in this country, I have to first and above all respect ALL THE LAWS and POLICIES, including the immigration laws, if you don't like some immigration laws, leave, nobody is holding you here.
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I was a renewal . and well i had picked up some challenges, though not my fault challenging .

So i had verifiable organizations and verifiable good american friends with solid jobs
who knew me for a long time write support and character reference letters with my renewal .
I also had an immigration organization help me file.They suggested i write a hell of a declaration with my application to explain. I am glad i listened.

My advice , it never hurts to try. I thank God for his mercy.I was terrified to reapply but i am glad i did.

Sent- 10/29/2015
Receipt rcvd- 11/03/2015
Biometric- 11/23/2015
Approved-01/15/2016
EAD Card Rcvd- 01/25/2016
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