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Originally Posted by h3wlett
converting to judaism takes a very long time.
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Oh, and I'm starting Hebrew classes in September
. Learning another language should be interesting to say the least especially since I don't even know my "native" language Spanish. Wish me luck guys and gals!
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Good luck on your spiritual journey, as corny as that sounds lol! You know me, I live for the corn...
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Originally Posted by HOPEFULDREAMER
*This is not intended to create big debate about religion and whose religion is better, etc. This is purely for a type of "conversation" if you will about different religions and to learn new things about other worldviews or the lack thereof for subscribing to a worldview.*
So, I'm converting. I know what religion I am converting to and the reasons why. I'm pretty firm in my beliefs but after taking a World Religions class at college, I've become incredibly interested in other people's religions. Case in point: I *was* Roman Catholic. Baptized, confirmed, the whole schpiel. Therefore, now that I am converting, my parents are threatening to disown me. Heh, c'est la vie huh? lol. My dad thinks it's a phase and my mom thinks she didn't set a good Catholic example. My extended family told me that they are *supportive* [whatever that means] but that they wouldn't feel comfortable attending gatherings such as weddings, etc. that focused on some aspect of my new religion and its customs. Basically, I'm getting kicked out of my family. Now, I'm doing this for myself and because of what I believe in. I've studied my new religion for quite a long time and I can truthfully say I love its messages, its customs, and its spiritual path. My problem is that to be happy with myself, I will have to sadden, enrage, and [in some cases] disgust my family to do what *I* think is right for myself. That's what religion is all about, no? It should be about how you feel about spirituality in general and how you feel about deities and creation, etc. So tell me, DREAMers, what is it about your religion [and if you are a convert or thinking of converting, what is it about your new religion that you find comforting or *right*] or lack thereof that you have come to embrace and cherish? Also, [and some of the answers may piss me off lol but feel free to answer] what is your opinion towards religious converters? Do you think they are just confused or do you think that only people that are born into a certain religion should be recognized as "true believers"? Lots of philosophical and spiritual questions, as you can see. . Also, I met a girl in my class that was Wiccan and loved hearing her religious viewpoints and what not. If you're from a non-traditional religion or if you just flat-out hate religion and embrace some other kind of worldview, come on in and state your feelings. The only thing I will REALLY get pissed off about is if you start insulting others for their views [basically, no anti-Semitism, anti-Islamic, or anti-ANYTHING comments will be tolerated. If you don't have anything nice to say, STFU and move along]. Okay, I'm done. Post away . |
The Qur'an is memorized by over 10,000,000 people across the world, and only about 10 percent of Muslims are arab.. and the Qur'an is in arabic. So not a dot has been removed ever since it was revealed. You can listen to the recitation of the Qur'an on the link below, and if you want to read about what the Qur'an is, you can check out the article below by Dr. Gary Miller (who is a convert!), which leads me to address your next question.. on converts. I don't think converts are lost, they are searching for new meaning and new truths... there is a saying i cant remember who said it, it goes something like "the discovery of truth begins with doubt" or along that lines. Ok enough talk, plz listen to the recitation u will be amazed.
edit: Sorry i forgot to address ur last question. I totally disagree with the notion that people who are born into a certain religion are only true believers.. a very simple thing to think.. when God first revealed the scripture or guidance, etc... THOSE PEOPLE WERE CONVERTS, were they not? Besides.. you truly begin to think when u hit puberty.. and thats when you choose where u wanna be... and if u read any of the revealed books.. God always talks about his guidance.. and he guides whomsoever he wills, etc.. there is never any emphasis on being born into a certain religion, which i think in fact logic would totally reject this.
Qur'an recitation: ftp://www.audioislam.com/pub/audio/q...hamadi/001.mp3 This is the first chapter of the Qur'an. You can find the translation here: http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/QURAN/1.htm
And if you wanna hear more recitations u can go here! http://hidayahonline.org/?page=audio&reciter=10
Article about the Qur'an: http://discover.islamway.com/articles.php?article_id=20
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Well...I actually have to agree w/ you in some aspects, I myself am " Roman Catholic" however, only by name b/c I really don't go to church and don't follow the rules. I have done all the ceremonies and I'll tell you what they are only b/c I had to do them....that is.
My paternal grandmother is a converter herself, I don't know what religion she is but let me tell you...she's converted more than 4x and has been very devout to each of them.
The difference: You researched yours, read the history....well the whole 9yards, she doesn't even know how to read, Never the less, she is what she is and believes in what she is.
Sometines (well most of the times) we are going to do things that our family itself will not approve of and like you said "disown" us, however, you are your own being and you have your own beliefs. If the religion you have chosen makes you happy and it is what you believe in then go for it honey. If later in life you come to the conclusion that it is not what you really want then there are other options. I don't believe that we may be punished by God or some other larger-than-life bieng by trying to find the right path to spiritualism.
I guess that right now your family is upset b/c you are going against what they have known to be "the only right way" and have learned all of their life. Eventually, they too will understand (hopefully) that regardless of what religion you are that you are still their son or/and brother. I guess you should just give them time to cope w/ the change and get over the surprise.
I'm not the best person to give you advise and it is to your discretion and decision whether or not you take it, but at least you have the opinion of someone who is neutral to the decision. I'm a believer, I respect all religion and beliefs.
Humans are no one to judge.
Hope it helps.
My paternal grandmother is a converter herself, I don't know what religion she is but let me tell you...she's converted more than 4x and has been very devout to each of them.
The difference: You researched yours, read the history....well the whole 9yards, she doesn't even know how to read, Never the less, she is what she is and believes in what she is.
Sometines (well most of the times) we are going to do things that our family itself will not approve of and like you said "disown" us, however, you are your own being and you have your own beliefs. If the religion you have chosen makes you happy and it is what you believe in then go for it honey. If later in life you come to the conclusion that it is not what you really want then there are other options. I don't believe that we may be punished by God or some other larger-than-life bieng by trying to find the right path to spiritualism.
I guess that right now your family is upset b/c you are going against what they have known to be "the only right way" and have learned all of their life. Eventually, they too will understand (hopefully) that regardless of what religion you are that you are still their son or/and brother. I guess you should just give them time to cope w/ the change and get over the surprise.
I'm not the best person to give you advise and it is to your discretion and decision whether or not you take it, but at least you have the opinion of someone who is neutral to the decision. I'm a believer, I respect all religion and beliefs.
Humans are no one to judge.
Hope it helps.
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