Religion - Page 6

truth cannot be either or.
it either is true or not.
you cant have it both ways.

god either does exist or he doesn't

and if i cant critique people then does that mean i should just allow something i seriously believe is wrong in the world to continue occurring. no i criticize and try to find logic in argumentative talk to hopefully make people see the light. and not just blindly be a follower

what are morals really? are those world wide accepted ideas that everyone will follow.
ask me what my morals are and im sure they might be drastically different then yours.
but does that make me unholier then thou'?
morals are just bull****
right and wrong dont exist.
right and wrong are just ideas to control the mass
you cant do this you cant do that
and of course communism where responsible for much death. so has "democracy" facism. feudulism. religions. or whatever for of POWER..
with POWER comes great............ death and misery

we might all struggle to find our path in our lives. but how can we do that when our life is already set by a book. rules that arnt mean to be broken are casted upon us as we live in their shadows everyday of our life. that is what religions is. u cant really find your way . when you way has already been set with sure you might have some wiggle room with the chains in your legs. but the chains are still there

well dumb might have been a bit to extreme
but religions does keep you ignorant
how can faith be aided by reason and intellect. LOL
faith and reason are the opposite.
faith is a belief in something that cannot be proven.
you have faith because u "believe that god is real"
if god was real it wouldn't be faith now would it. it would be a fact that would be backed by reason and intellect which would be aided by science in proving god is real
but since that is not the case you need faith to believe that he is real.

so basically you are saying you are too weak minded to come up with your own decisions on issues when you need a mystical being from a fictional book to guide you in a decision.??

that not freedom of conscience. .... that would mean you would do unbiased research on a issue and actually follow what your brain says not what Santa clause and his elves think is right

i dont think he hates Christianity . but he is pointing out the fact that many wars have been based upon religion.
and if not. religions has pretty much always OK'd government actions that lead to war.

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it funny that when one critiques someone religions they are immediately "bad" because its like religions is this holy thing that NO one can talk about. if you cant defend yourself then you shouldn't be putting words in other peoples mouth and it would be much better to keep to ones self and look like a fool then to write nonsense and actually act like one

Since when did evolution become a fact??? You are unbelievable , you seem to have this elitist arrogance about you but o well believe what you want to believe i'll believe what i know is true. One day when we all die we will find out who was right and who was wrong. I feeel sorry for u.

Okay apart from the crusades, tell me any other instance where christians have been killing people??? i don't really consider the crusaders christians to me they were christians in name only but my point was he was saying even today christians are still killing people, so all im saying is in the past 100 yrs or whatever give me an example of christians killing in the name of God. Most of you guys saying there are extremists in every religion but are there extremist christians killing and terrorizing people today???? NOOO. I also know when some of you guys refer to religion on here at least i know you are not refering to any other religion but christianity. Don't try to defend curator let him come and defend himself afterall you are not in his mind and you dont really know what he means or meant.

crassrock, I believe that a world without morals will bring death and misery. If there is no right and wrong, then there wouldn't be anything "wrong" with death and misery, would there? Thankfully, people are born with some level of altruism, at least that's what I believe.

You seem to think my faith keeps me in chains. I can simply decide to reject it, but that's not what I choose to do right now.

Reason and intellect are used to put faith into practice. People are faced with unique situations that are not even mentioned directly in a book. So you do your best to interpret and apply a somewhat vague commandment or teaching to decide what the right choice to make is.

Don't you make acts of faith yourself? It's an act of faith to believe that physical laws will stay constant and matter exists. It's an act of faith when you believe that the sun will rise the next day. It's an act of faith it assume that someone you speak to has a brain even though you can't see through his skull. It's an act of faith when you trust the sources that make you reach your conclusions. I tend to think that religion is a grand hypothesis whose proof will be found after we die. I'm not waiting for that moment, so I try to make the most out of my life right now on this earth.

My faith gives me values to live by. No one is forcing me, but myself. In fact, my parents aren't even that religious. You can call me weak-minded all you want, but I've tried coming up with other alternatives, and I just don't see how they're any better than what I have now.

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Witch trials?

Oh! Residential schools. Residential schools - condoned and encouraged by both the Catholic and Anglican churches were *worse* than murder. The last one closed in the 1970s in Canada. Do some research on indian residential schools, and what happened within their walls. It'll scare ya.

Truth is, I'm not antichristian. I'm not antireligion. Honest. But any institution that's been around for a while has more atrocities in it's closet than any modern member would like to believe. Whether it's a religious institution, a country, whathaveyou.

I believe in spirituality. I believe that the human creature is made of four parts - our mind, our emotion, our body and our spirit. I believe that these four parts of us must be in balance to attain happiness. I believe happiness is the purpose of 'life'.

Again, I believe that whatever the ultimate 'truth' is, it's answer is found between science and every religion that's been in existance. Examine each and every single religion, exmine any and all scientific theory - somewhere, between all those seemingly contridictory thoughts is the 'truth'.

I choose to follow the path my ancesters did, as best I can. I think, ultimately, these arguements of 'is science or religion right? is my religion or your religion right?" are just glorified pissing contests. (Is that harsh? Am I allowed to say that?) We're all after the same thing - some sort of knowledge or belief to help us put one foot in front of the other. Some sort of definitive 'proof' that what we percieve is valid.

Some find that through believing in someone sitting on a cloud somewhere watching what we do. I find that through believing in living balance. Others find that by believing in what they touch and see and feel. I don't think *any* of the systems out there outright contridict each other, only on the surface do we find them in opposition.

Yes, I believe that creationism and evolution can be reconciled. Now. . . I'm gonna draw fire for that one ain't I?

All right, I don't know what happened in this thread but it sure isn't pretty.