In the unlikely/likely scenario that Trump grants us citizenship... - Page 3

Originally Posted by Kaisaurus

No it would not change my opinion of him. As the president of this country he is still referring to the undocumented as illegals. Even if it is just semantics it speaks a lot at his views on us as Americans (albeit undocumented) and even as people. Whatever positive he may do for us as DACA recipients will not change and make me forget what he said against so many others and has already done to many within days of him taking office.

It seems like some people don't realize that there are DACA recipients that are black, mexican, lgbtq, disabled, women and muslim. There are some that even fall into many if not all these categories.

As a DACA recipient my loyalties will not change just because something benefits me. Mexico is the largest immigrant population simply because of its proximity to the US. What if Trump passes something that allows protection for all those except muslims and mexicans who he was most vocal about during his campaign. If you will then support him because it does not effect you, you should do some soul searching in what type of person you are and also learn your history.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Originally Posted by Gzalo

Everything is biased when it contradicts what your beliefs are. Love it!!

Let's analyze this critically rather than trying to compare peanuts to rocks.

"It only takes a google search to see all the protests from republicans after the Obama inauguration. "

When have you ever seen such a wide scale "protest" of a President being elected, in what is presumably a "democracy, where the people accept the democratic process". I don't recall seeing the main stream media blasting protests, riots, large crowds interfering with the public (blocking highways, roads, events) to such a high degree like today back when Obama was elected. In fact I recall 0 instances being put forth into the lime light because they were few and far between.

For every 1 instance you can "google", (you can google anything btw, doesn't prove a point. You need overall perspective which you seem to lack) you will find 10 fold the instances this year of riots, shootings, protests, acts of violence etc. towards Donald Trump and the "alt-right".

So no, the video is not biased, and certainly not because it goes against your beliefs and political stance.

"Defunding Planned Parenthood, which provides affordable services such as pap smears, birth control, and cancer screenings to lower income women is proof that his archaic beliefs are more important than women's health."

Defunding planned parenthood does not trifle or remove any Woman's right that I'm aware of. You may need to do some reading.
He has not said abortions will be illegal. Cutting funding which is used to subsidize abortions does not remove your ability to have an abortion. It removes the ability for woman to do it on everyone's tax dollars alongside getting those basic health care options for free.

Everyone is so "pro independent" until you bring up the fact that they need to rely on the government for money. Then again that is the whole point of being a Liberal in the first place.

Lastly,
"You're against the people who are protesting for you to be able to stay and work here and supporting the ones who want you gone??"
This is the real world. There are no "teams", anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. Everyone is out for personal gain. That is human nature. Believe me when I tell you the Democrats don't give 3 shits about DACA. They use DACA to pull and maintain Hispanic votes and favor in the community, while also using the collected revenue from applications and taxes that we pay to also fund more "social" programs. All of which comes back around and simply increases the size and power of the government.
But no sweety, they are totally looking out for you and your best interest! You are so special that you are a priority for all Leftist in Washington. Please

And generalizing any group of people just makes you look dimwitted. Like I said, people are out for personal gain. Many Republicans also are pro immigration, pro reform etc. Not every Republican is a racist hillbilly and not every Democrat is a SJW Wellfare leech. You will never make progress as a person nor will this country ever progress forward if we keep using stereotypes to group people based on 1 aspect into a category.

It's called "divide and conquer", google it. That is what is really going on here.

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667

When people think of illegal immigrants they think of this, a disabled black mexican gay who is muslim.

Originally Posted by Gzalo

"Whatever positive he may do for us as DACA recipients will not change and make me forget what he said against so many others and has already done to many within days of him taking office."
What exactly has he done in office already that has done any harm to any group?

Also, what is the fascination with Liberals and juxtaposing everything with Hitler and WW2. Never quite understood that.

Lastly,
Why would you have "loyalties" to anyone or any party. This is exactly the kind of "thinking" that inhibits free will and free thought. This is why this country will always be governed by a two party system, because of notions such as these which people trap themselves into for some dumbfounded reason.

Originally Posted by Kaisaurus

Are you a DACA recipient? I only ask because you speak like someone with no skin in the game.

My loyalties lie with no party. We have the power to put people in power even as undocumented people and hold them accountable through our influence. This can be with our families and communities that have voting power. You insult people by suggesting that we do not have the agency to make political decisions on our own and that we are sheep while you post hot takes and things that can be debunked with fact checking.

I posted the poem because it is a history lesson for those who believe in survival of the fittest. History will repeat itself if we don't learn from our mistakes.

"Defunding planned parenthood does not trifle or remove any Woman's right that I'm aware of. You may need to do some reading."

How can you state something as if its fact and state you are not aware of how this removes women's rights why did you not educate yourself? and then you say that someone else may need to do some reading?? How Sway? Do you know that abortions only account for 3% of planned parenthood's services. Defunding something that is a life saver for women because of 3% doesn't seem like a witch hunt to you?

And generalizing any group of people just makes you look dimwitted.

But, but aren't you doing that when you talk about liberals, democrats and SJWs?????

The lack of research done to come to the opinions you spout as facts is exactly why we have a 45th president who in week 1 has caused pain and suffering to so many. I won't go into what he has done as you yourself have mentioned google and reading. I hope you take your own advice and I would recommend that you fact check your info with reputable sources.