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Trump expected to sign new exec order on immigration Wednesday - Page 3

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i think you're mad u aged out lol. kys
No, I'm just peachy about it. It was completely fair. It was my fault that I got old.
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02-27-2017, 11:01 PM
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you wrote all that bullshit and i didn't even read a single word of it lmaooooo
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I swear if she starts speaking in "Spanglish", I'll laugh a little. If she then starts "waiving a Mexican flag" in front of Congress, I'll throw my TV set out the window.
Same, though.
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02-28-2017, 01:14 AM
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Hey person who just signed up last month, possibly with multiple accounts on here.

I guess we may never know how immigrants would be treated if the vast majority of them were not from Mexico and Latin America but I doubt it would be as you claim.

Scenario 1: Alternate reality where Mexico and Latin American countries were perfect and there was little to no migration to the US:

I have relatives who came here in the 50's and 60's when illegal immigration was not an issue (I guess since migrants would just come to work in the US and then head back home on off seasons) and nobody really gave a damn either way. Even international students would go get a SSN, and apply for work and nobody ever asked a thing.

It wasn't until the mid-70's when there was just such an influx of migrants from the south that it became an issue that needed to be dealt with and laws became harsher and harsher. If Latin countries had stable economies and there was no need for them to come to the US for work, would we be where we are today? I doubt it. Perhaps eventually it would have become an issue but certainly not where we are today.

Scenario 2: Our current reality.
Currently, the vast majority of undocumented people are Spanish Speaking and/or from Mexico. There is no debate there, it just is. I would concede that DACA and talks of immigration reform have happened because of them rather than the other immigrants; however, I would argue that a lot of the negative coverage of undocumented immigrants that has hindered immigration reform is also due to Hispanics.

By my own anecdotal observation non-Spanish speaking immigrants, tend to want to be here more. It was a lot harder for them to get here and they tend to assimilate better because it was sink or swim once they got here.

Myself, I was speaking English to the point where I was fully functional in school after 6 months. It wasn't magical or anything, I worked at it. At the same time a Mexican kid (Carlos) in my class never spoke a single word of English the entire year and my Vietnamese buddy who had been here a year longer than me was absolutely destroying even the American kids. His father worked at the same kitchen with Mexican fathers so it's not like any of us were privileged.

Having babies with taxpayer money? who does it more? Come on, be honest with yourself...Crimes that are committed by undocumented, which group does it more? Again, be honest.

So yes, while I'm fully aware that any talk of immigration reform is mostly for the benefit of Hispanics, if you look at the net result, it's even at best. They're not exactly crazy about "you people" either.
I am Mexican and I have to agree with you.. I honestly think it's a cultural issue. For example, Mexicans don't appreciate education as much as other cultures and for that reason their children don't thrive in school. If you look at the life outcomes of even Mexican-Americans, they're not exactly stellar... it's sad but it's the truth. I remember when my mom first came here a bunch of Mexican undocumented women were trying to convince her to have an American baby lol fortunately my mother had her head on her shoulders and knew that she couldn't afford to give a good life to another child. Yet the system rewards the women who had American babies at tax payer expense and people like my mom are screwed. The system is totally unfair. It just sad...
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you wrote all that bullshit and i didn't even read a single word of it lmaooooo
Reading is hard. That's why you can't get your GED.
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Yet the system rewards the women who had American babies at tax payer expense and people like my mom are screwed. The system is totally unfair. It just sad...
Totally. System is unfair, and some members of our community have learned to milk it.
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Totally. System is unfair, and some members of our community have learned to milk it.

Yeah totally some people wait years in line to come here yet all we did was apply for daca and bam we got it.
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Yeah totally some people wait years in line to come here yet all we did was apply for daca and bam we got it.
yeah that's the same thing. genius
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yeah that's the same thing. genius
It's not? We got rewarded with DACA while people like Iamaman weren't despite him being longer here
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Reading is hard. That's why you can't get your GED.
You're 41 and still haven't been able to adjust through marriage? I pity you little man
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